I agree H Sji that we shouldn't completely depend on the plant list. But, as
Singji pointed out that is a great effort and we cannot totally ignore the
same. I had gone through what ever literature available in our library and
got to know that  Z. mauritiana has stipular thorns whereas, Z. glabrata
doesn't have hence I reached my conclusion.

To clarify, the contradiction on synonym I referred the same flora books
from our library and most of the flora says Z. jujuba is a synonym of
Z.mauritiana (Flowering Plants; Biodiversity Documentation for Kerala,
Sasidharan KFRI, 2004 &  Flowering Plants of Kerala, India, Nayar, T S et al
(TBGRI), 2006 ).

I had mentioned the link for The plant list  because that is the* *best
source available online now ( I proudly make a statement that when we
compile our data ours would be certainly become the best source of flora
reference online). The plant list is compiling by a group of taxonomists who
are working from leading botanical gardens in different parts of the world,
including Kew Botanical Garden where herbaria from world around is kept and
well  maintained for a long time, I believe. Further, I beleive that they
are updating the database with several new publications.

If we feel that there are contradictions or corrections let us write them.


Thanks and Regards,
Giby





On 21 July 2011 21:52, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Let us not banish 'The Plant List' like that. It is for the first time we
> have complete list of all plant species with accepted names and synonyms.
> Agreed, there are still a large list of unresolved names and few
> controversial conclusions, but I think trained taxonomists can sort these
> out, and moreover, the list is being continuous improved and we may have
> improved version soon.
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:59 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Has i have told earlier, please don't depend on The palnt list...
>> there several mistakes encountered,
>>
>> search in literature and look often to the herbarium,,, will help in
>> correct identication..
>>
>> regards,
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Giby Kuriakose <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Maya,
>>>
>>> Does the plant has thorns? If the tree is unarmed (no thorns) then it is
>>> Z. glabrata and if the tree is armed then it is Z. mauritiana (Syn. jujuba).
>>> ( We have to clarify the contradiction on the synonym).  I couldnt
>>> see  thorns in the branch close up picture hence I reached a conclusion that
>>> it could be Z. glabrata (Z. trinervia). Please see the attachment.
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> According to the plant list there are 2 genus; Zyzyphus and Ziziphus (
>>> http://www.theplantlist.org/browse/A/Rhamnaceae/) in Rhamnacae family
>>> jujuba kept under Ziziphus whereas, mauritiana kept under Zizyphus.  Both
>>> are accepted as well. Any one has any clarification on this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Giby
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20 July 2011 13:55, maya ramaswamy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi could you please help me to identify this tree for seasonwatch?
>>>> Its very twiggy at base and leaves cover only the top. But it seems to
>>>> be a native variety, and birds love it in fruiting season..
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Maya Ramaswamy,
>>>> Bangalore
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD
>>> Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE),
>>> Royal Enclave,
>>> Jakkur Post, Srirampura
>>> Bangalore- 560064
>>> India
>>> Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile)
>>> visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  - H.S.
>>
>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
>> stone
>>
>>
>
> x
>



-- 
GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD
Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE),
Royal Enclave,
Jakkur Post, Srirampura
Bangalore- 560064
India
Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile)
visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby

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