Ushadi And yes, In recent days I have developed new technique to judge size of parts that I may confuse later. (I remember once a photograph of Duranta erecta was shown in close up.....I missed it for Thunbergia). I put flower, leaf or fruit on my hand/finger/nail and take photograph. This helps me later to know their size (as also size of pedicel, bract, calyx, corolla). This is crucial since many closely related species are often differentiated on the basis of size of these parts.
And yes I must admit, you, Madhuri ji and Nalini ji have done a great service to the group through your writings. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ushadi > I had sent these comments in another thread, I am repeating them here > (We missed your valuable comments-this comment of mine is not relevant now) > . I am, however, becoming a fan of Tanay, seeing his pace of evolution and > attainment of maturity since he joined the group. This group is known for > high level of cordiality and fellowness. > We have often been writing to new members to provide relevant > information as per the prescribed format (which every person botanist or > non-botanist can provide). True it is not possible for non-botanists to > provide technical details but as I have been writing frequently, besides the > format if mail is sent with some properly taken photographs, experts may be > able to decifer details: > > 1. A photograph of the twig showing insertion of leaves, inflorescence, > with one or more leaves in good view. > 2. Side view close up of flower showing insertion of flower (if close up is > properly taken, experts can study bract, pedicel, calyx, corolla > from this). > 3. Top view close up of flower to show stamens and carpels. > 4. A photograph of fruit is always a bonus. > > With these photographs, place, altitude, date of photography, habit and > habitat information, the job of the experts would be much more easier. > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Ushadi micromini < > microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> DEAR ALL >> I SECOND TANAY IN THIS WRITE UP..... >> >> Giby ji: TAKE CARE WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT.... >> NOT nice to keep being churlish and telling people off... >> You have a lot of knowledge... my Grand ma used to say as the >> mango tree gets full of fruits it bows down more and more... >> >> so it is with human beings...as the knowledge increases, >> truly increases, we should become more humble... >> >> Please take your cues from Gurucharanji and Garg ji and Dinesh Valke >> ji .. >> .Dr. Vijayashankar Raman et al.. >> They may correct us from time to time, but they NEVER TELL US OFF..... >> >> A group like this is only as good as it gets because of the >> Knowledge base of its members and the members' collegiality, >> congeniality and friendships that develop among its members.... >> >> PLEASE ALL, LETS KEEP IT THAT WAY... >> Regards, >> Usha di >> === >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 31, 8:03 pm, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi Giby Ji. >> > I appreciate and understand that all the botanist always wants >> > the best information from the plant around them to get it >> > identified if not they feel frustrated. But we should also consider >> > that most of the members in our group are non-botanist and have >> > very little ideas about the technical morphological complexities >> > in the plant. Though some non botanist members have great >> > knowledge about such technical terminologies but still the majority >> > stays unaware of it. Hence I think you can make such non-botanist >> > members aware of what we actually expect from them in a more >> > calm and refined manner rather getting too excited and robust. So that >> > next time they can try to record the data from the field. I have >> > no intentions >> > to hurt you as you are one an assets in your group hence I >> > believe you will take my words sporting without any hard feelings. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Tanay >> > >> > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Smilax004 <giby.kuriak...@gmail.com >> >wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear all, >> > >> > > I repeatedly inform all who post pictures for id that please provide >> > > supporting information along with pictures. Information along with >> > > pictures would certainly ease the id process. In the case of the >> > > picture in this post we are not sure what is the habit of this plant. >> > > Non of the leaves are clearly visible in the picture. It is not clear >> > > whether there are thorns on the stem of this plant. It is not very >> > > clear that whether leaves are opposite or alternate. Not clear about >> > > the size of plant, leaf, flower etc. The number of lobs in the corolla >> > > is also crucial that is not clear. The person who take the picture >> > > might know all these things. If you provide such information it would >> > > be better to confirm the species. Making assumptions might lead to >> > > wrong id. Any way, we take several minutes to hours (sometimes) to id >> > > a plant. When take pictures please take more than one picture from >> > > different angle so as to include more details in one snap. When you >> > > download the pictures select the one that has maximum information to >> > > post for id. >> > > You may please visit Dinesh ji's photos @ >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ >> > > dinesh_valke/ to have an idea on this aspect. >> > >> > > Therefore, I request all posters in this group to kindly take little >> > > bit of extra effort/time to provide necessary information (please see >> > > the format to post pictures for id). This not only would help us in id >> > > the plant but also help those who want to learn the species in >> > > detail. >> > >> > > Regards, >> > > Giby >> > >> > > On Jul 31, 11:53 am, Mymoon Moghul <mogh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > Hello >> > > > Please help with the ID. All taken in Chennai, South India in the >> month >> > > of >> > > > july. >> > >> > > > Thanks >> > > > regards >> > > > Mymoon >> > >> > > > ID-3.JPG >> > > > 133KViewDownload >> > >> > -- >> > *Tanay Bose* >> > Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant. >> > Department of Botany. >> > University of British Columbia . >> > 3529-6270 University Blvd. >> > Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) >> > Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile) >> > 604-822-2019 (Lab) >> > 604-822-6089 (Fax) >> > ta...@interchange.ubc.ca >> > *Webpages:* >> http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.htmlhttp://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.htmlhttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ > > > x >
