Sir Confusing situation Is this a new species of Preannthes means Cicerbita It does not match well with both herbarium Specimen
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Balkar ji > The only thing worrying me is that P. brunoniana is generally a taller > plant and there are numerous heads forming a panicle. Here we have few heads > like in P. violaefolia. Please compare with image appended by you. The > leaves, however, do not match P. violaefolia. I am uploading my herbarium > sheets of two for comparison. > > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear All >> after alot of search i could find the following information >> *Prenanthes* *brunoniana* Wall. ex DC. is an >> unresolved<http://www.theplantlist.org/about/#unresolved> name >> as per theplantlist.org >> >> FOI considers Cicerbita brunoniana, Lactuca brunoniana, Prenanthes >> hispidula as *Synonyms* >> * >> * >> * *The plant list consider *Lactuca* *brunoniana* Wall. ex C.B.Clarke is >> an unresolved <http://www.theplantlist.org/about/#unresolved> name >> >> The only accepted Name is *Cicerbita* *brunoniana* (Wall. ex C.B.Clarke) >> Rech.f. is an accepted <http://www.theplantlist.org/about/#accepted> name >> Flora Simlensis and Flora of Muscsoorie describe only two species as per >> following Key >> >> 1. leaves ovate or triangular, not variable, heads few, solitary or >> subsolitary, on long stalks: P. violaefolia >> 2. leaves variable, heads many in terminal panicles: P brunoniana >> Description >> From Flora of Mussoorie >> description of P brononiana: herb, .3-2 mt, often diffuse, leaves very >> variable, , alternate long petiolate, lanceolate or triangular, base cordate >> or truncate, toothed or sinuate, often 3 lobed or pinnatifid with variously >> cut and toothed lobes, heads ligulate, many in terminal panicles, , flowers >> 3-5 in a head, purple or white, achenes not beaked, papus of hairs. flowers >> oct-Nov, Dist west Himalaya 1800-2700 mts >> >> from flora simlensis >> Stems 1-6 ft heads numerous, paniclred leaves of various shape: P >> brunoniana >> stems 12-18 in heads few solitary long stalked leaves always triangular: P >> violaefolia >> Smooth or rough, sometimes glandular, especiallyon the inflorescence and >> nerves of the leaves, Stem 1-6ft, simple or branched, Stalks long or short, >> slender, naked or winged, their bases sometimes dilated or lobed:, blade 4-8 >> in or more, lanceolate or triangular, cordate or truncate, toothed or >> sinuate, often pinnatifid, with large or small, variously cut and toothed >> lobes. Heads 1/2-3/4 in long in a termin al panicle flowers 3-5 in a head, >> purple or white >> FF- aug sept >> note This sp has the aspect of Lactuca hastata but the heads are 3-5 >> instead of 10-30 flowered and achenes are without a beak >> >> as Gunjan ji said it can be B sikkimensis, i could not find much >> information except a pic which i am attaching here. In bothe above said >> floras only 2 sp are describerd. >> As i can understand the highly variable nature of P brunoniana or rightly >> said Cicerbita brunoniana may be in Unresolved list >> From the above description our plant may be C brunoniana including the >> plant of Garg Ji in following thread >> [efloraofindia:55286] Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb73 for Id- JM >> And also the plant of Alok Ji >> [efloraofindia:83787] Kalatope id al260911a >> If anybody can conclude from the above discussion pls???? >> Thanks >> >> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:25 PM, gunjan sud <sud.gun...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Respected Sir, >>> I have a similar specimen collected from H.P. with me and have studied >>> it after consulting the herbaria, but I still doubt if this is species >>> brunoniana. Can we check out for another sp. sikkimensis. Please guide me >>> too. >>> >>> With Regards >>> Gunjan. >>> >>> Dear All >>>> Sharing pics of a Asteraceae herb about 1-1.5 feet high, lyrate leaves. >>>> Dont have another pics to count florets etc >>>> looks like Prenanthes sp >>>> Can this be Prenanthes brunonianaOn Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Balkar >>>> Arya <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> pls help >>>> Thanks >>>> -- >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>> Haryana-132103 >>>> 09416262964 >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Regards >> >> Dr Balkar Singh >> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >> Arya P G College, Panipat >> Haryana-132103 >> 09416262964 >> > > > -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964