Thank you Gurcharan Sir for taking care of my concern. I wonder how a text book meant for higher education is continuing incorrect ID keys even in its ninth edition with several reprints!
Regards, surajit On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Suraji ji > Quoting from our website " Unarmed or armed herbs, shrubs, climbers or > small trees. Prickles when present straight or curved, with or without > broad base. Hairs simple, branched or glandular. Leaves simple or compound" > > Flora of China "Leaves solitary or paired, simple or pinnately compound," > > Flora of Pakistan "Leaves simple or divided" > > Even in tomato you will find some leaves deeply divided, some almost > compound, and some compound, or some poorly lobed, and as such some books > will write deeply divided others pinnate leaves. > > Flora of China "mostly pinnately compound or divided, sometimes entire" > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:38 AM, surajit koley < > surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dinesh Ji, >> >> I am copying here some more text from the book - >> >> *KEY TO GENERA* >> >> A. Corolla-limb valvatefruit usually a berry; seeds more or less discoid, >> compressed, embryo peripheric : >> (a) Anthers opening through 2 apical pores, connivent in a cone - >> (i) Leaves simple, lobed or pinnatifid ............ *Solanum* >> (b) Anthers dehiscing by longitudinal slit- >> (ii) Dehiscence introrse, leaves pinnate ....... *Lycopersicum* >> (iii) Calyx small in fruit; anthers equal or shorter than the >> filament; fls. small, in paired pedicels or simple...... *Capsicum* >> .............. ............ >> ................ ........... >> >> Thank you & Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Frankly Surajit ji - I know little of this !! Certainly Gurcharan ji and >>> many learned, will provide clarity and resolve your doubt. >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:51 PM, surajit koley < >>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry, DInesh Ji, for the confusion i have created in my last mail to >>>> Gurcharan Sir. It should read thus - >>>> >>>> According to the text book i follow the ID KEY to *Solanum* genus is >>>> "Leaves *simple*, lobed or pinnatifid". >>>> >>>> (Ref. "Plant Groups" by H. Mukherji; publisher: NEW CENTRAL BOOK AGENCY >>>> (P) Ltd.; 1981 edition, reprinted 2005; page no. 1025.) >>>> Does that imply that taxonomists initially thought of tomato plants >>>> having simple leaves? Or the above mentioned college text book contains >>>> wrong data? >>>> Regards, >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Dinesh Valke >>>> <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> *Solanum lycopersicum* L. is *commonly known as*: love-apple, tomato >>>>> • *Assamese*: বিলাহী-বেঙেনা bilahi bengena • *Bengali*: বিলাতি বেগুন >>>>> bilati beguna, টম্যাটো tamyato • *Gujarati*: ટમાટો tamato • *Hindi*: >>>>> टमाटर tamatar, विलायती बैंगन vilayati-baingan • *Kannada*: ಟೊಮಾಟೋ >>>>> tomaato • *Konkani*: टोमॅटॉ tomato • *Malayalam*: തക്കാളി thakkaali • >>>>> *Manipuri*: খামেন অসিন্বা khamen asinba • *Marathi*: बेलवांगी >>>>> belavangi, विलायती वांगी vilayati vangi • *Punjabi*: ਵਿਲਾਇਤੀ ਬੇੰਗਨ >>>>> wilaití bengan • *Tamil*: சீமைத்தக்காளி cimai-t-takkali, >>>>> கொடித்தக்காளி koti-t-takkali • *Telugu*: తక్కిలి takkili, తమాటకాయ >>>>> tamatakaya • *Urdu*: بيگن ولايتی wilayati baigan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:10 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you once again Gurcharan Sir, but i have a question - >>>>>> >>>>>> According to the KEY to *Solanum* genus is "Leaves *simple*, lobed >>>>>> or pinnatifid" ["Plant Groups" by H. Mukherji; publisher: NEW CENTRAL >>>>>> BOOK >>>>>> AGENCY (P) Ltd.; 1981 edition, reprinted 2005; page no. 1025]. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does that imply that taxonomists initially thought of tomato plants >>>>>> having simple leaves? Or this very college text book contains wrong data? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Another good set of photographs, Surajit ji >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:55 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tanay Sir, >>>>>>>> Thank you once again for confirming this one too... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Tanay Bose >>>>>>>> <tanaybos...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes it is Tomato. >>>>>>>>> Tanay >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 25 April 2012 11:03, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Found this *Solanum* in roadside thicket. I hope i haven't made >>>>>>>>>> any mistake in identifying this herb. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Species : *Solanum* *lycopersicum* L. >>>>>>>>>> Habit & Habitat : herb, roadside >>>>>>>>>> Date : 28-02-12, 12.50 p.m. >>>>>>>>>> Place : Hooghly, WB >>>>>>>>>> ID help : >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/solanum$20indicum/indiantreepix/OCVwfmALC1A/Eu6jZQdYC2kJ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you & Regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> *Tanay Bose* >>>>>>>>> Research & Teaching Assistant. >>>>>>>>> Department of Botany. >>>>>>>>> University of British Columbia . >>>>>>>>> 6270 University Blvd. >>>>>>>>> Vancouver, B.C. 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