Hi,
 To complicate matters further.....
 
Dr. Almeida in his 'Flora of Maharashtra' classifies this as Sida rhombifolia 
L.var retusa [Linn.] Masters.
  
                     With regards,
                        Neil Soares.

--- On Tue, 9/4/12, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote:


From: surajit koley <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:128413] Sida rhombifolia L. (?) from Hooghly
To: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>
Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 7:15 PM


Neil Sir,


I understand that my species is Sida retusa, not S. rhombifolia. You know it 
much better than me. Please, tell me, of the followings, which one is correct -


Sida retusa = Sida rhombifolia L. 
Sida retusa L. = Sida alnifolia var. alnifolia 
Sida retusa is not connected to any of the above
Thank you & Regards,


surajit



On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote:






You are most welcome Surajit. Sending you some of my more recent photographs of 
Sida retusa.
                     With regards,
                       Neil Soares.

--- On Tue, 9/4/12, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote:


From: surajit koley <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:128413] Sida rhombifolia L. (?) from Hooghly
To: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>
Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 6:29 PM


Neil Sir, 


The images of Sida retusa (your uploads 
- https://groups.google.com/d/topic/wildflowerindia/Y7Lyh4_z5tg/discussion) do 
perfectly match with herbarium found at 
- http://ww2.bgbm.org/herbarium/view_large.cfm?SpecimenPK=151598&idThumb=378002&SpecimenSequenz=1&loan=0


I thought my pics resemble with the herbarium at 
- http://ww2.bgbm.org/herbarium/view_large.cfm?SpecimenPK=151592&idThumb=377939&SpecimenSequenz=1&loan=0. But
 my inexperienced eyes and lack of knowledge are very likely to deceive me.


Thank you very much for the correct id of this Sida.


Regards,


surajit






On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote:






Hi,
 Affirmative. This is Sida retusa. [Don't go by the leaves at the top of the 
plant. Check the leaves lower down]. As Dr.Almeida explained to me when I posed 
the same questions to him - retusa means 'cut' - its as if someone has abruptly 
cut the leaves. Whereas in Sida rhombifolia, the leaves are rhomboid.
                        With regards,
                          Neil Soares.

--- On Tue, 9/4/12, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote:


From: surajit koley <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:128413] Sida rhombifolia L. (?) from Hooghly
To: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>
Cc: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 12:07 AM


Neil Sir, 


Though my flowers differ with your picture of S. rhombifolia at 
- https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/cWZmjt6gng0/discussion, i 
think my leaves differ with that of your images of S. retusa leaves at 
- https://groups.google.com/d/topic/wildflowerindia/Y7Lyh4_z5tg/discussion.


Besides, the following websites informs S. retusa = S, rhombifolia L. or S. 
rhombifolia L. subsp. rhombifolia - 


http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?33900

http://keys.trin.org.au/key-server/data/0e0f0504-0103-430d-8004-060d07080d04/media/Html/taxon/Sida_rhombifolia.htm

http://www.anbg.gov.au/common.names/

On the other hand The Plant List informs -


Sida retusa L. is a synonym of Sida alnifolia var. 
alnifolia - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-19601817
more synonyms of the above - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-19603576
I am confused. Attaching one more photographs, a larger one, for your perusal.


Regards,


surajit





On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote:






Hi,
 Negative. This is Sida retusa. Please check these links for my photographs and 
our previous discussion on this :
 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!search/Sida$20retusa$20Neil$20Soares/wildflowerindia/Y7Lyh4_z5tg/GuQwons9sIIJ
 

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!search/Sida$20retusa$20Neil$20Soares/indiantreepix/cWZmjt6gng0/oAjbrJq0bCUJ
 
                       With regards,
                         Neil Soares.
 

--- On Mon, 9/3/12, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote:


From: surajit koley <[email protected]>
Subject: [efloraofindia:128413] Sida rhombifolia L. (?) from Hooghly
To: "efloraofindia" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:54 PM


Sir, 


I hope this is Sida rhombifolia L., the Bengali name of which has been stated 
as LAL-BERELA in the book, Plant Groups, by H. Mukherji.


Species : Sida rhombifolia L. ?
Habit & Habitat : wild herb, about 2 feet, found on roadside, pictures were 
taken from two individual plants at the same place
Date : 01/09/12 & 03/09/12
Place : Kamarkundu (Hooghly)


Thank you & Regards,


surajit


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