Can we take it as Pedicularis siphonantha as per the recent thread: https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/ZpVqxNlhyGI in view of Tabish ji's remark as below: "Gurcharan ji, This paper of 2009, [Taiwania, 54(2): 122-133, 2009] analyses Pedicularis species of Section Siphonanthae. I have attached a sketch from the paper. Pedicularis hookeriana (flower C in the diagram) has a very short flower-tube. Also the distribution of Pedicularis siphonantha is mentioned to be from Kashmir to Eastern Himalayas. So I think the long-flowered species throughout the Himalayas is Pedicularis siphonantha. The other long-flowered species, with hairy flower-tube, is Pedicularis megalantha, but restricted to E. Himalayas. - Tabish"
On 4 September 2012 01:26, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > After having seen several similar uploads from VOF, I hope I would > consider this as Pedicularis hookeriana. > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:05 PM, jmgarg1 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >> Some earlier relevant feedback: >> “I think this is *Pedicularis siphonantha * >> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=52572&flora_id=2 >> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Tube%20Lousewort.html >> with a distinctive twisted nose. - Tabish” >> >> "Thanks Tabish ji for prompting me for relook from 'Scrophulariaceae of >> Western Himalayas'. I had initially provisionally identified it from Flora >> simlensis which lists only P. carnosa (now synonym of P. bifida) with >> alternate leaves and pink flowers. P. siphonantha according to Pennel does >> not grow in Western Himalayas and has much longer corolla tube (usually >> more than four times the calyx). *To me the plant looks to be >> Pedicularis punctata Decne. (syn: P. siphonantha var. brevituba Prain) >> *characterised >> by leaves with 4-6 pairs of pinnae, flowers pink, part of lower corolla >> lobes and galea white. >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh" >> >> "According to Polunin & Stainton, Pedicularis siphonantha is found in >> region from Uttarakhand to S. Tibet. However, *I don't have much idea >> about Pedicularis punctata.* >> - Tabish" >> >> >> "*P. siphonantha has much longer and slender corolla tube, beak spirally >> coild or S shaped and leaves with 6-15 pairs of segments. * >> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=52572&flora_id=2 >> -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh" >> >> "Not very often I differ from the views of Tabish sir, But this time I >> think the link provided by Dr. Gurcharan shows a plant >> on an authentic website. The corolla tube is smooth and glabrous unlike >> our plant and much longer than our plant. >> There is one more species recently erected called Pedicularis >> yaoshanensis. >> Have a look plz. >> Regards >> Pankaj" >> >> "I could not find any details of Pedicularis punctata Decne. (syn: P. >> siphonantha var. brevituba Prain) on net. It looks close to *Pedicularis >> sigmoidea compared to P. siphonantha* as per Flora of China as per >> details below (though I may be wrong as may not be in range) >> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3732&flora_id=2(Illustration) >> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=52569&flora_id=2 (Pix) >> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200021143(Details) >> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=89829&flora_id=800(Pix)" >> from me. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> Date: 20 November 2010 12:46 >> Subject: Flora of Uttarakhand- Herb25 for Id- JM >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >> Wild Herb captured on 13/8/10 during the trek from Ghangaria (around >> 11,000 ft.) to Hemkunt Sahib (around 14000 ft.). >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg ([email protected]) >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >> alphabetically & place-wise): >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use >> them for free as per liberal licensing conditions attached with each >> image. >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Google e-group- Efloraofindia: >> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1420 members & >> 52,000 messages on 26/10/10 & with a database of around 4200 species on >> 30/9/10) >> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species*& >> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged >> alphabetically & place-wise): >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use >> them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1950 members & >> 1,27,800 messages on 31/8/12) or Efloraofindia website: >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database >> of more than 7000 species). >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> >> > > > -- > > > > -- With regards, J.M.Garg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1950 members & 1,27,800 messages on 31/8/12) or Efloraofindia website: https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of more than 7000 species). Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. --
