Many many thanks Vijayasankar Ji. I regret that the doc is not accessible to common people.
Regards, surajit On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>wrote: > The following paper includes keys and descriptions of both the species: > A Revision of Phyllanthus (Euphorbiaceae) in the Continental United > States<http://www.jstor.org/stable/2805721> > Grady L. Webster > Brittonia<http://www.jstor.org/action/showPublication?journalCode=brittonia>Vol. > 22, No. 1 (Jan. - Mar., 1970), pp. 44-76 > > Regards > > Vijayasankar Raman > National Center for Natural Products Research > University of Mississippi > > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 8:54 PM, surajit koley < > surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you once again Vijayasankar Ji. >> Documents are saying that *P. niruri* L. is not found in India. >> If i could find some morphological description of *P. niruri* L.! >> >> Regards, >> surajit >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Vijayasankar >> <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Dear Surajit ji, >>> >>> Please check this paper: >>> http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/view/6070/3109 >>> It answers most of your questions. As you can see, leaf character is >>> important, but also features of flowers, fruits etc. to be considered for >>> correct diagnosis. >>> >>> I still think your plant is Phyllanthus amarus. But, let's hear from >>> others too... >>> >>> Please also see the poster published by FRLHT...available at >>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Vijayasankar Raman >>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>> University of Mississippi >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, surajit koley < >>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Vijayasankar Ji, >>>> >>>> I was digging a bit more on *P. niruri* L. and *P. amarus* Schum. & >>>> Thonn. >>>> >>>> I found a number of papers on medicinal properties of *P. niruri* L., >>>> published by CSIR, some of those are recent publications - >>>> >>>> 1. http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/4539 >>>> 2. http://www.csircentral.net/index.php/record/view/18194 >>>> 3. without using L. or Linn. - >>>> http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/3400 >>>> >>>> *P. niruri* L. in other sites - >>>> >>>> 1. >>>> http://www.namahjournal.com/doc/Actual/Phyllanthus-vol-19-iss-3.html >>>> 2. http://www.pharmainfo.net/reviews/phyllanthus-niruri >>>> 3. >>>> >>>> http://www.slideshare.net/AlexanderDecker/11protective-effect-of-phyllanthus-niruri-on-dmba-croton-oil-mediated-carcinogenic-response-and-oxidative-damage-in-accordance-to-histopathological-studies-in-skin-of-mice >>>> >>>> At the same time i kept in my mind what i learned in group threads, >>>> that *P. niruri* L. doesn't occur in India, even though it had been >>>> mentioned in "THE USEFUL PLANTS OF INDIA" ( CSIR publication ). So, i >>>> searched more on *Phyllanthus* species - >>>> >>>> 1. Google directed me to an ebook, *"Phyllanthus Species: >>>> Scientific Evaluation and Medicinal Applications" (By Ramadasan Kuttan, >>>> K. >>>> B. Harikumar)* that supports the claim. The same book also >>>> describes *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. I copy a few words -* >>>> *".... leaf blade 5-9 x 2-4 mm, oblong, obtuse at both ends...." = >>>> page 26 & 27 = >>>> >>>> http://books.google.co.in/books?id=ordQCHqPy9gC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=Phyllanthus+niruri+L+species+description&source=bl&ots=i1nPFFuQLy&sig=k06juMKogPFUEK3Puul3nL99k84&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yfF2UOuPB8yqrAfw0IGoCA&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Phyllanthus%20niruri%20L%20species%20description&f=false >>>> 2. Another document describes *Phyllanthus spp.* in Tiruchirappalli >>>> district. I copy a few words on *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & >>>> Thonn. = ".... stem terete, hispidulous, ... leaf tip rounded..." = >>>> http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/viewFile/6070/3109 >>>> >>>> >>>> *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. in - >>>> >>>> 1. FoC = Leaves distichous; stipules linear or linear-lanceolate, >>>> green; petioles ca. 0.5 mm; leaf blade oblong or elliptic-oblong, 3-8 × >>>> 2-4.5 mm, membranous or thinly papery, base rounded, apex obtuse or >>>> rounded and often apiculate = >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 >>>> 2. FoP = Similar to Phyllanthus fraternus, but completely >>>> glabrous,foliage-leaves smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm), oblong= >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 >>>> 3. *Phyllanthus fraternus* Webster in FoP = leaf-blades >>>> elliptic-oblong to elliptic-oblanceolate, 5-13 x 1.5-5 mm, obtuse >>>> or rounded at apex and base = >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 >>>> >>>> Whom should i follow for the ID of my species? I think my species >>>> doesn't have terete stem, not sure about apices of leaves. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:55 AM, surajit koley < >>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good morning/evening Vijayasankar Ji, >>>>> Thank you very much. >>>>> >>>>> But, if it is *Phyllanthus amarus* then FoC and FoP both are not much >>>>> reliable source, specially for leaf sizes, more evident in my grass & >>>>> *Sesbania* uploads. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> surajit >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Vijayasankar < >>>>> vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Nice pictures Surajit ji! >>>>>> Your visit to the pond might have surprised the young Varanus! Please >>>>>> tell him/her you were clicking *Phyllanthus amarus. * >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>>> National Center for Natural Products Research >>>>>> University of Mississippi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Searched for *Phyllanthus niruri* L. and found :- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. ".... There is no confusion regarding *P. niruri because it >>>>>>> doesn't occur in India*. *All plants which earlier called in >>>>>>> that name are belong to (and to be called as) P. amarus*, as we >>>>>>> all know...." = >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/uRuNBBRR_3k/discussion >>>>>>> 2. *P. amarus* in FoP = ".... Similar to Phyllanthus fraternus, >>>>>>> but completely glabrous, *foliage-leaves smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm) >>>>>>> *, oblong...." = >>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>>> 3. *P. amarus* in FoC = " ...... leaf blade oblong or >>>>>>> elliptic-oblong, *3-8 × 2-4.5 mm*.........." = >>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368 >>>>>>> 4. " ............ *P. fraternus has 6 tepals* and the >>>>>>> elliptic/obovate leaves will have a narrowed base....... " = >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/1x7grsFDm6Q/discussion >>>>>>> 5. *P. fraternus* in FoP = "........ leaf-blades elliptic-oblong >>>>>>> to elliptic-oblanceolate, *5-13 x 1.5-5 mm*..." = >>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520 >>>>>>> 6. ".... *Phyllanthus fraternus (syn: P. niruri Hook.f. (non >>>>>>> Linn.), quite distinct from P. amarus in larger leaves, 6 perianth, >>>>>>> 6-10 >>>>>>> lobed disc*............ " = >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/vFK2qO-sz18/discussion >>>>>>> 7. another group post = >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/xpGcxOGpkJI/discussion >>>>>>> 8. another = >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/49hDzECkogE/discussion >>>>>>> 9. yet another = >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/c_6anbyYgoc/discussion >>>>>>> 10. In FoI = >>>>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Gulf%20Leaf-Flower.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Species : UNKNOWN >>>>>>> Habit & Habitat : wild herb, both branched and unbranched, very >>>>>>> common on roadside, waste places; height about 1 foot or more; leaves = >>>>>>> 10mm x 5 mm (image no. DSCN1627.jpg); tepals = 5 (image no. >>>>>>> DSCN1635.jpg) >>>>>>> Date : 8-Sept-12, 2.00 p.m. >>>>>>> Place : Hooghly >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, as i was recording these images a young water >>>>>>> monitor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_monitor>was waiting for me! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you & Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > --
