dari jaman 9i sudah ada streams
dah include di EE gak perlu buang duit percuma...paling biaya
implementasi aja :D

tinggal configure dan active-active (2 site open)
sementara production runing transaksi, replica/standby db bisa dipakai
reporting even reporting yg main-main dgn temp table (dari heap
table).


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thanks and regards
ujang | oracle dba | mysql dba
jakarta - indonesia


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Mohammad Arief Pradipto
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Ngobrolin tentang Standby dan Production,
>
> Mungkin informasi juga untuk Mas Wisnu apakah sudah dapat informasi ini atau 
> belum, bahwa Oracle 11G menyediakan fitur yang bernama 'Active DataGuard'. 
> Fitur Active DataGuard ini secara harfiah artinya adalah, bahwa sementara 
> physical standby database dibuka Read Only mode, database tersebut terus 
> menerus mengapply transaksi-transaksi yang dilakukan di primary.
>
> Sebenarnya setau saya Fitur tersebut sudah 'tersedia' di Oracle 10G, dengan 
> nama Oracle DataGuard Real Time Apply, tapi boleh ada yang konfirmasi ngg, 
> saya ada baca artikel bahwa Active DataGuard harus bayar biaya tambahan. 
> Setau saya dengan Oracle 10G saya tidak bayar tambahan untuk teknologi 
> DataGuard, mungkin ada yang bisa kasih informasi?
>
>
> regards,
>
> adipt
>
>
> =============
> http://www.dba-oracle.com/t_active_data_guard.htm
> Oracle active data guard tips
>
> Oracle Tips by Burleson Consulting
> July 18,  2008
>
>
> Question:  The Oracle marketing people are at-it again, and I noticed that 
> within Oracle 11g "active" data guard is an extra cost option!  In Oracle 
> 10g, there was no distinction between an "active" data guard and an inactive 
> one, so I wonder if Data Guard costs extra in Oracle 11g?
>
> Answer:  The only way to know for sure if Data Guard is still free in 11g EE 
> is to contract your CSR (customer support representative).  Oracle is always 
> re-naming products, and it's not uncommon for a single feature to have many 
> names (e.g. Oracle VPD is the same as RLS).  As to Data Guard, Oracle is 
> slicing-off the functionality as Data Guard matures.
>
> You are correct, the Oracle web site says that Data Guard (SQL Apply and Redo 
> Apply) comes as part of 10g Enterprise Edition (EE).
>
> Active Data Guard - Now an extra cost option?
>
> In 11g, "active data guard" is indeed an "option".  The description suggests 
> that "active" data guard is Data Guard with physical standby, opened for 
> read-only transactions:
>
> Oracle Active Data Guard—an option for Oracle Database 11g Enterprise 
> Edition—enhances Quality of Service by offloading resource-intensive 
> activities from a production database to one or more synchronized standby 
> databases.
>
> Oracle Active Data Guard enables read-only access to a physical standby 
> database for queries, sorting, reporting, web-based access, etc., while 
> continuously applying changes received from the production database.
>
> Oracle Active Data Guard also enables the use of fast incremental backups 
> when offloading backups to a standby database, and can provide additional 
> benefits of high availability and disaster protection against planned or 
> unplanned outages at the production site.
>
> The docs also say that active data guard implies that it is essentially redo 
> apply services used with physical standby:
>
> "If a license for the Oracle Active Data Guard option has been purchased, 
> Redo Apply Services can also run on a physical standby database instance that 
> is open."
>
> Let's look at the 11g new features for Data Guard.  Oracle 11g Data Guard 
> introduced several new features.  The Oracle 11g New Features 
> book<http://www.dba-oracle.com/t_11g_new_data_guard.htm> notes some Data 
> Guard Pricing changes:
>
> "As site failures do not happen on a regular occurrence these disaster 
> recovery (DR) servers can be sitting idle for long periods of time without 
> any use or value being obtained. Prior to 11g businesses were unable to 
> benefit as greatly from their DR investment. Oracle’s goal for 11g was to 
> make DR cost effective, better utilize standby resources and allow for easy 
> testing of DR.
>
> Data Guard is included with the Enterprise Edition of Oracle, but it should 
> be noted that a named user or processor license may need to be purchased for 
> the database. It’s always recommended to check with an Oracle sales."
>
> The book also confirms that "active Data Guard" is essentially Data Guard 
> Physical Standby with read-only access:
>
> "Oracle Active Data Guard allows DBAs and users to run real-time queries on a 
> physical standby system for reporting and other purposes while still seeing 
> transactional consistent results. As opposed to previous versions where 
> applying of logs had to stop while reporting was taking place, it now runs 
> simultaneously.
>
> Oracle versions 9 and 10 couldn’t have the physical standby in readable 
> state;11g has this and is fully synced. This ability makes an organizations 
> DR investment much more valuable. This capability is known as Real-Time 
> Query."
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: wisnu dwi hidayat<mailto:[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:33 PM
> Subject: External Email: --> Re: External Email: --> [indo-oracle] Tanya 
> Mirroring 2 server database
>
>
>
> Dear Henri,
>
> Terima kasih telah merespon email saya.
> Saya sudah pakai standby pak dan sdah open read only...
> Dan standby saya memang saya gunakan buat reporting.. tapi synchronize 
> archive file nya manual pakai cron job setiap 12 jam..(OS saya linux RHEL 5)
> saya maping  directory archive yg di production (primary) ke standby dan saya 
> copy archive production ke stanby dan saya recover pakai script yg saya 
> jalankan pakai cronjob setiap 12 jam untuk autorecover di stanby;
>
> ORACLE_HOME=/OraHome/oracle11g/product/11.1.0/db_1;export ORACLE_HOME
> ORACLE_LIB_PATH=$ORACLE_HOME/lib;export ORACLE_LIB_PATH
> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin:$ORACLE_HOME/bin
> ORACLE_SID=PROD;export ORACLE_SID
> export PATH
> sqlplus /nolog <<eof
> conn / as sysdba;
> shutdown immediate;
> startup nomount;
> alter database mount standby database;
> recover standby database;
> auto
> alter database open read only;
> exit;
> eof
>
> Yg saya tanyakan gimana kalo server primary saya down trus saya switch ke 
> standby yg DRP tanpa delay lama dan data tersebut realtime ...
> Kalo support oracle saya blum habis  mungkin saya liat metalink..
> Saya sudah googling dan ada penjelasan tentang dataguard dan RAC lantas mesti 
> mana yg saya pakai..?? atau kalo punya link ke situs tutorial RAC atau 
> dataguard boleh share ke saya..
>
> regards,
> Wisnu
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Henri Alia Putra 
> <[email protected]<mailto:henriap%40fif.astra.co.id>>
> To: "[email protected]<mailto:indo-oracle%40yahoogroups.com>" 
> <[email protected]<mailto:indo-oracle%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 10:48:00 AM
> Subject: RE: External Email: --> [indo-oracle] Tanya Mirroring 2 server 
> database
>
> Dear Wisnu.
>
> Sebenarnya dengan memakai oracle 11g ,anda sudah mendapatkan future yang 
> sangat oke untuk dataguard
> (di 10g sebenarnya juga sudah ada)
> dengan db 10g atau 11g tinggal anda buat standby redolog di kedua db, maka db 
> anda tidak akan ada delay nya, guarantee oracle no data loss.
> kalau di 10g, standby db ,cuma bisa di baca dengan open read only,
> tapi kalau anda sudah memakai 11g , maka db standby bisa langsung 
> dibaca,karena default sudah oen read only, jadi db tsb bisa anda manfaatkan 
> sbg reporting.
>
> untuk cara pembuatannya ,tinggal googling ato menyelam di metalink.
> good luck
>
> Henri
>
> From: [email protected]<mailto:indo-oracle%40yahoogroups.com> 
> [[email protected]<mailto:indo-oracle%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of wisnu dwi hidayat [[email protected]<mailto:wisnu_dh%40yahoo.com>]
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:22 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:indo-oracle%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: External Email: --> [indo-oracle] Tanya Mirroring 2 server database
>
> Dear Masters & Members,
>
> Saya mo tanya nih.. gimana buat database server bisa syncrhonize real time 
> antara 2 server.. seperti mirroring lah.. jadi seperti buat DRP gitu.. server 
> yg satunya akan di pakai jika terjadi gangguan pada yg primary tapi data 
> server tersebut realtime dengan primary atau setidaknya ada delay brapa 
> second lah... untuk koneksi kami miliki bandwith 2 mega 1:1..
> Saat ini saya menggunakan Oracle 11g..
> Saat ini selain production (primary) database saya hanya memiliki standby 
> database yg synchronizenya tidak realtime( ada delay 12 jam)..
>
> Mohon saran dan bantuan para master sekalian yg telah berpengalaman....
>
> Regards,
>
> Wisnu
>
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