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--- In [email protected], "Alidjaja Ivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > maksudnya the end of this discussion? > > Wah ..jgn..selama aman dan terkendali....silakan terus saja, saya jadi > banyak belajar di sini... > > ________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eri > Sent: 6. maaliskuuta 2007 16:07 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Indo-StarTrek] Re: Murahan?? --- katro nya tukul --- > > > > I hope this is then of this discussion... > it is becoming more to principal matters. > > Salam, > Eri > > On 3/6/07, Alidjaja Ivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:ivan.alidjaja%40formin.fi> > wrote: > > > > > > menilai = value, assess...dan lain sebagainya... > > > > sangat menarik..I would like to see the end of this > discussion... > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: [email protected] > <mailto:indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> > <indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> > > [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> > <indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com>] > > On Behalf Of masnunuk > > Sent: 6. maaliskuuta 2007 13:39 > > To: [email protected] > <mailto:indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> > <indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: [Indo-StarTrek] Re: Murahan?? --- katro nya tukul --- > > > > > > > > ---kutipan dari www.asalnimbrung.com---- > > > > karena ini dimilis dan bukan pm, boleh dong ikut nimbrung... > ;) > > > > mestinya ada beda nya judging dengan menilai (bhs inggris nya > > menilai > > apa yaa.. ah dasar gw katro...wong ndeso... bhs inggris aja > gak > > bisa...dari generasi tua...dengan nilai2 yang juga tua... > kalo' > > menilai masih pake tradisi lama...ah dasar gw katro---jurus > > laris > > tukul #4: 'hina' diri sendiri) > > > > btw, ada berapa kotak yaa di semesta ini?? > > ada kotak Gender... ujung2 nya jangan melecehkan > > ada kotak Jadul dari generasi warkop... ujung2 nya... dasar > > jadul!! > > butuh berapa kotak?? kotak siapa yang lebih besar?? > > > > Saya yang katro menilai kelakuan Hoshi 'Murahan' Sato di ENT > > :4x18-4x19: In a Mirror, Darkly part I & II > > sebagai yang Murahan krn satu starship di-'embat' semua. > > sampe T'Pol heran hoshi kok masih punya 'sisa tenaga' ;) > > apa di semua seri hoshi seperti itu... kayak nya enggak ;) > > apa semua wanita seperti itu....oh tentu tidak ;) > > > > di sisi lain, secara implisit di nilai(judge??) gen. warkop > yang > > sdh > > gak lucu. > > > > setelah ini kalo' ada yang akan 'mengutuk' saya krn penilaian > > saya, > > gak papa krn penilaian saya memang seperti itu. > > ---tafsiran bebas TNG:1x01-1x02: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > tapi saya gak akan mengutuk seseorang yang meng-kotak-i saya > > dengan > > label 'JADUL' > > > > nih gocap > > MN > > > > --- In [email protected] > <mailto:indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> > <indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> , "warbird692001" > > <warbird692001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sharif, judging ourselves is as easy as judging others. > > Because being > > > human is basically being selfish, everything is about > > ourselves. Me, > > > myself, my family, my house, my career, my etc, my etc. > Unlike > > other > > > mammals, humans are individualists. > > > > > > So if you ask me if it's good to become the judge to > > ourselves, my > > > answer will be: we have been the judge to ourselves for > > millenia. It's > > > not good and it's not bad either. It's what we instinctively > > do. > > > Example: you judge yourself a sexyst, thus it gives you the > > right to > > > judge Hoshi and other women for their choices. > > > > > > I have a question: > > > Can you be the jury and the executioner to yourself? > > > > > > Jury analyzes the case and decides if one's guilty or not. > > > The executioner determines the penalty of your doings by > > looking at > > > the damages you have done whether intentionally or not. > > > > > > Humans made mistakes. That we all know. > > > Accepting that fact is not important. > > > The important thing is how to learn from those mistakes. > > > > > > Being a judge doesn't qualify us to learn from the mistakes > we > > made, > > > but being a defendant is. It is not fair to pick out just > one > > thing > > > and left out the others.. it will be too convenient. Truth > is, > > we've > > > been conveniently living as judges. > > > > > > I'm not saying this is easy, but the best way to improve the > > quality > > > of humanity is not to be a judge, jury or executioner to > > ourselves. > > > Let others be the judge, jury and executioner, and let > > ourselves be > > > the defendants. > > > > > > My two cents. > > > > > > Salam, > > > Indie > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] > <mailto:indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> > <indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:indo-startrek%40yahoogroups.com> , Sharif Dayan > <dayan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Itulah karena saya seorang manusia, yang kodratnya tidak > > sempurna. > > > Saya mencoba > > > > memperbaikinya dengan cara menyampaikan secara jujur. > > Kejujuran > > > berrisiko dianggap "two > > > > cents", namun kejujuran itu saya sampaikan dengan -maunya- > > rendah > > hati. > > > > > > > > Cara saya berpikir dan bertindak seperti itu dipengaruhi > > antara lain > > > oleh ST. "Jangan > > > > menjadi hakim bagi sesamamu", demikian yang pernah > diajarkan > > pada > > > saya. Saya sudah > > > > menghakimi dengan cara memberikan cap "murahan", namun > pada > > saat > > > yang sama saya mencoba > > > > menjadi hakim bagi diri saya sendiri dapat menjadi baik. > > Baikkah itu > > > ? Silakan > > > > masing-masing kita bertanya pada diri sendiri. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharif Dayan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > -- > tix-oi sak-khet se-veh > ("Live Long and Prosper") > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
