Hi Elisa and list members,
I had a hard time tracking down a pdf of the Nirnaya Sagara edition some years
ago and ended up having a copy (either from the Deccan College library or the
Purna Prajna Vidyapeetha) scanned. Here’s a link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wdzkj63hgcbvmu7/Rig%20Veda%20Bhashya%20of%20Madhvacharya%20tika%20of%20Jaytirtha%20%28Pothi%29.pdf?dl=0
Best wishes,
Jonathan Peterson
Department of Religious Studies
Center for South Asia
Stanford University
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3. Re: Seven types of ascetics (Rolf Heinrich Koch)
4. Pdf of ?gbh??ya??k? (Elisa Ganser)
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Dear All,
There does not seem to be anything wrong with "encouraging an attitude of
questioning and not merely accepting whatever the textbooks (or
print/electronic/social media) say as infallible truth".
On two specific issues raised in the message below, here are (very brief)
indications :
(a) Newton's theory of gravitation is interesting and useful, but not correct
for very basic reasons, as we now understand after the advent of the Special
and General theories of Relativity. As for the interplay between scientific
theories and social conditions or ideologies, see what Aldo G. Gargani says
about Newton's physics ("Le savoir sans fondements", Vrin, Paris, 2013).
(b) We have no statement of a general theorem that goes back to Pythagoras. The
attribution is quite late (Vitruvius, Cicero,...), and may not refer to the
full theorem.
Cautious historians avoid referring to an alleged "Theorem of Pythagoras" or if
they must, always use quotation marks, as we did. It is best to call the
theorem popularly attributed to him "theorem of the square of the hypotenuse"
(or, "of the diagonal (cord)" -- the Indian formulation), or Euclid I.47. There
is a similar issue with what is called "Thales' theorem" in France. There are
no named theorems in Euclid.
The earliest attribution extant seems to be Vitruvius' (several centuries after
Pythagoras' putative time). Since the exact reference is almost never given,
let alone the text, we include it. It only mentions a special case: a triangle
with sides 3-4-5, and explains that the result is useful to make nice
staircases):
Source : https://www.thelatinlibrary.com/vitruvius/vitruvius9.html#P.1
De Architectura, Book IX, Praefatio.
[6] Item Pythagoras normam sine artificis fabricationibus inventam ostendit,
et quam magno labore fabri normam facientes vix ad verum perducere possunt, id
rationibus et methodis emendatum ex eius praeceptis explicatur. Namque si
sumantur regulae tres, e quibus una sit pedes III, altera pedes IIII, tertia
pedes V, eaeque regulae inter se compositae tangant alia aliam suis cacuminibus
extremis schema habentes trigoni, deformabunt normam emendatam. Ad eas autem
regularum singularum longitudines si singula quadrata paribus lateribus
describantur, cum erit trium latus, areae habebit pedes VIIII, quod IIII, XVI
quod V erit, XXV.
[7] Ita quantum areae pedum numerum duo quadrata ex tribus pedibus
longitudinis laterum et quattuor efficiunt, aeque tantum numerum reddidit unum
ex quinque descriptum. Id Pythagoras cum invenisset, non dubitans a Musis se in
ea inventione monitum, maximas gratias agens hostias dicitur his immolavisse.
Ea autem ratio, quemadmodum in multis rebus et mensuris est utilis, etiam in
aedificiis scalarum aedificationibus, uti temperatas habeant graduum
librationis, est expedita.
(Vitruvius then explains why this is useful to make staircases).
See also X.6.4 for another application of the same triangle.
Best wishes,
Satyanad Kichenassamy
On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 20:22:03 -0400
Periannan Chandrasekaran via INDOLOGY <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, pretty soon, someone is going to ask that with a straight face, if
> the Karanataka Govt.'s NEP proposal is implemented:
>
> Question Pythagoras theorem and trim ‘Eurocentric’ concepts, observes the
> position paper of Karnataka’s NEP 2020
> <https://indianexpress.com/article/education/question-pythagoras-theorem-and-trim-eurocentric-concepts-observes-the-position-papers-of-karnatakas-nep-2020-8021235/>
>
> "In the position paper of Knowledge of India, the guidelines encourage
> students to question the Pythagoras theorem and Newton’s law of gravity. It
> says, “ …encouraging an attitude of questioning and not merely accepting
> whatever the textbooks (or print/electronic/social media) say as infallible
> truth, with a clear foundation of how knowledge generation takes place and
> how fake news such as Pythagoras theorem, apple
> <https://indianexpress.com/about/apple/> falling on Newton’s head etc. are
> created and propagated.”
>
> Regards
> Periannan Chandrasekaran
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 3:59 AM Dean Michael Anderson via INDOLOGY <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> > How do we know the original was not written in Sanskrit long ago and only
> > later translated into Spanish? ;-)
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Dean
> >
> > On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 01:19:30 PM GMT+5:30, Richard Mahoney via
> > INDOLOGY <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Not something I expected to find in the paper this evening, esp.
> > after all we've been putting up with; thanks for the great news. :)
> >
> > ‘First modern novel – oldest language’: Sanskrit translation of Don
> > Quixote rescued from oblivion | Miguel de Cervantes | The Guardian
> >
> > https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jul/06/first-modern-novel-oldest-language-sanskrit-translation-of-don-quixote-rescued-from-oblivion
> >
> >
> > Best Richard
> >
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In his Bṛhajjātaka, Varāhamihira lists seven types of ascetics
corresponding to the seven planets: /śākyājīvikabhikṣuvṛddhacarakā
nirgranthavanyāśanāḥ/. A few centuries later, the commentator
Bhaṭṭotpala elaborates slightly on these, citing the authorities
Vaṅkālakācārya (writing in Prakrit) and Satyācārya. These passages are
discussed in Basham's /History and Doctrines of the Ājīvikas/ (p. 168
ff., giving the Prakrit author's name as Kālakācārya). I am wondering if
any further research on these ascetic categories has been published
after Basham's book, which is now more than 70 years old. In particular,
I am curious about the categories vṛddha (identified by Bhaṭṭotpala as
Kāpālikas) and caraka (which he says are cakradharas). All suggestions
are welcome.
Best wishes,
Martin Gansten
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Dear Martin,
in Sri Lanka they call today Viṣṇuites as cakradhara
better try this one: Barua, Maskarī as an Epithet of Gosāla, IHQ Vol III
No 2 June 1927: 235-261.
Best
Heiner
Am 15.07.2022 um 09:34 schrieb Martin Gansten via INDOLOGY:
In his Bṛhajjātaka, Varāhamihira lists seven types of ascetics
corresponding to the seven planets: /śākyājīvikabhikṣuvṛddhacarakā
nirgranthavanyāśanāḥ/. A few centuries later, the commentator
Bhaṭṭotpala elaborates slightly on these, citing the authorities
Vaṅkālakācārya (writing in Prakrit) and Satyācārya. These passages are
discussed in Basham's /History and Doctrines of the Ājīvikas/ (p. 168
ff., giving the Prakrit author's name as Kālakācārya). I am wondering
if any further research on these ascetic categories has been published
after Basham's book, which is now more than 70 years old. In
particular, I am curious about the categories vṛddha (identified by
Bhaṭṭotpala as Kāpālikas) and caraka (which he says are cakradharas).
All suggestions are welcome.
Best wishes,
Martin Gansten
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Dear colleagues,
I’d be very grateful if anyone could help me locate or share a pdf of
Ṛgbhāṣyaṭīkā of Jayatīrtha, edited by T.R. Krishnacarya. Mumbai: Nirnaya Sagara
Pres, 1901.
It does not seem to be available on archive.org <http://archive.org/>.
All best wishes,
Elisa
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