Dear Madhav et al., It should work: to wit: ē̃̀ ō̃̀
Opt.-a + e [or o], opt-shift n, opt-shift `. best wishes, Dan > On Jan 15, 2023, at 11:12 PM, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hans, > > At least on my Mac, your solution seems to work for ā̃̀, ī̃̀, ū̃̀, > ṝ̃̀ and ḷ̃̀ but does not seem to work for e and o. On e and o, it allows > me to add either nasality or accent, but not both. > > Madhav > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 7:55 PM Madhav Deshpande <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Thanks, Hans. Wow, this solution works on my Mac. Now the next question is > this. When Pāṇini says that "ai, au" are nasal and udātta or svarita, > where do we place the signs for nasality and accent? On both segments of "ai, > au," or only on the final segment? We don't have this dilemma in Devanagari. > > Madhav > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 7:11 PM Hock, Hans Henrich <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Madhav, > > On the Mac, if you use a unicode-compatible font (e.g. Times New Roman) and > select ABD - Extended for the keyboard, you can put together something like > this ā̃́ as follows: Option a + a = ā; ā + Shift Option n = ā̃; ā̃ plus Shift > Option e = ā̃́. The important thing to not is that after the first diacritic > (which you insert with the usual Option selection before selecting the base > character), any other diacritics have to be added after the base character by > using Shift Option. > > I don’t know whether you can go beyond adding three diacritics (I haven’t > tried or needed to), but for what you are concerned with, the above should > work. > > I hope this helps. > > Hans Henrich > >> On 15 Jan2023, at 19:30, Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Thanks, Tim. Will give it a try. Often writing about Pāṇini, a need arises >> to show triple marking - length, nasality and accent. Lately I have had some >> difficulty in producing such triple markings. >> >> Madhav >> >> Madhav M. Deshpande >> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics >> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA >> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies >> Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India >> >> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 5:04 PM Lubin, Tim <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Dear Madhav, >> >> >> >> As Suresh Kolichala says, several Unicode fonts include all the requisite >> glyphs. I think you were also asking about a suitable keylaylout for Mac, >> to produce them. EasyUnicode can handle that. The basic repertoire of >> Indic transliteration characters are specially assigned to >> Opt+character+[letter] or Opt+Shift+[letter]. >> >> >> >> But the full set of “Unicode Combining Diacritical Marks” (0301-0362) are >> also available with EasyUnicode. >> >> >> To add one to any letter, first type the letter destined to bear the >> diacritical mark, and then press opt+1 (a ring will appear temporarily) and >> then press the key assigned to the desired diacritical mark per the chart >> below. For example: >> i. Type the letter "ā" >> >> ii. Press "option+1" >> iii. Press "e" which is assigned for the Unicode "Combining Acute Accent" >> (0301). Result: ā́ >> >> <image001.jpg> >> >> Examples:Acute: "option+1" and "e", Greve: "option+1" and "@", Breve: >> "option+1" and "b", Caron: "option+1" and "v",Ring below: "option+1" and "r" >> >> >> >> >> >> Alternative diacritical marks can be called by "option+1" and then pressing >> "shift" key. >> Examples: Breve Below: "option+1" and "shift+b", Caron Below: "option+1" and >> "shift+v": >> >> >> >> <image002.jpg> >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> Timothy Lubin >> Jessie Ball duPont Professor of Religion, and Adjunct Professor of Law >> Head of the Law, Justice, and Society Program >> 204 Tucker Hall >> Washington and Lee University >> Lexington, Virginia 24450 >> >> https://lubin.academic.wlu.edu/ >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Flubin.academic.wlu.edu*2F&data=04*7C01*7CLubinT*40wlu.edu*7C118620c8eb3b4049237308d886c1df18*7Cd1a80622a99943e58eb67873905e939e*7C1*7C0*7C637407514521888642*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C1000&sdata=KGZJIHllkEOJZN9s48rB6YkrExmYG1owecyuPn*2FuR*2Bg*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!DZ3fjg!69SR-kdNEZ_9R1JQ622gxp40bAMoUwjqELxvVb3T0QJI4OIWfXBwCoLHWPaW74f3zmRBGuYKy_jEgXLTHHuh775n6thH$> >> >> http://wlu.academia.edu/TimothyLubin >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http*3A*2F*2Fwlu.academia.edu*2FTimothyLubin&data=04*7C01*7CLubinT*40wlu.edu*7C118620c8eb3b4049237308d886c1df18*7Cd1a80622a99943e58eb67873905e939e*7C1*7C0*7C637407514521888642*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C1000&sdata=etrMzh0RHx8819v5PH6KeTgeHQpeNVqeSUP62IDVn9c*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!DZ3fjg!69SR-kdNEZ_9R1JQ622gxp40bAMoUwjqELxvVb3T0QJI4OIWfXBwCoLHWPaW74f3zmRBGuYKy_jEgXLTHHuh7yMo9LVd$> >> >> https://hcommons.org/members/lubin/ >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://hcommons.org/members/lubin/__;!!DZ3fjg!69SR-kdNEZ_9R1JQ622gxp40bAMoUwjqELxvVb3T0QJI4OIWfXBwCoLHWPaW74f3zmRBGuYKy_jEgXLTHHuh78stI5sk$> >> >> https://ssrn.com/author=930949 >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fssrn.com*2Fauthor*3D930949&data=04*7C01*7CLubinT*40wlu.edu*7C118620c8eb3b4049237308d886c1df18*7Cd1a80622a99943e58eb67873905e939e*7C1*7C0*7C637407514521888642*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C1000&sdata=F9JfpSkLrSfrImfMeIXPIjpUIVYIYcwfbvm8dqcxedE*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!DZ3fjg!69SR-kdNEZ_9R1JQ622gxp40bAMoUwjqELxvVb3T0QJI4OIWfXBwCoLHWPaW74f3zmRBGuYKy_jEgXLTHHuh761OQFcS$> >> https://dharma.hypotheses.org/people/lubin-timothy >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fdharma.hypotheses.org*2Fpeople*2Flubin-timothy&data=04*7C01*7CLubinT*40wlu.edu*7C118620c8eb3b4049237308d886c1df18*7Cd1a80622a99943e58eb67873905e939e*7C1*7C0*7C637407514521898628*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0*3D*7C1000&sdata=sncUovdIh9wA0ezo8n2xpYpllaMKMetH86tMA6Jtg9A*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUl!!DZ3fjg!69SR-kdNEZ_9R1JQ622gxp40bAMoUwjqELxvVb3T0QJI4OIWfXBwCoLHWPaW74f3zmRBGuYKy_jEgXLTHHuh7w0JSILE$> >> >> From: INDOLOGY <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of INDOLOGY >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Reply-To: Suresh Kolichala <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Date: Sunday, January 15, 2023 at 6:15 PM >> To: Madhav Deshpande <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Cc: INDOLOGY <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Help/advice >> >> >> >> Dear Madhavji >> >> >> >> Every Unicode font that is well implemented should support all the >> combinations of diacritics. For instance, here is what I get with Times New >> Roman and Arial, with length, nasal, and accents. >> >> >> >> <image003.png> >> >> >> >> Attached is the word document I used. Let me know if it doesn't show >> correctly on your machines. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Suresh. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 11:28 PM Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> What font/keyboard-layout will allow me to type multiple diacritics on >> vowels, i.e length, nasality and accent? I want to type the 18 varieties of >> avarṇa as discussed by the grammarians. Any suggestions are welcome. Best, >> >> >> >> Madhav M. 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