Dear Professor Deshpande, Thank you very much for the reference. Indeed, Oldenberg's essay is very insightful and I am reading it at the moment. If anyone needs the pdf, I can send it privately.
With many thanks and best wishes, Aleix On Tue, 17 Jan 2023, 07:14 Madhav Deshpande, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Aleix, > > I remember many years ago looking up this old article by Hermann Oldenberg > "Zur Geschichte der altindischen Prosa." It is included in Hermann > Oldenberg: Kleine Schriften, pt. 3, edited by Hanns-Peter Schmidt. I don't > have a pdf, but hopefully you may be able to locate it. If my memory serves > me correctly, there is some interesting discussion of the different kinds > of Gadya in Vāmana's Kāvyālaṃkārasūtras. The traditional distinction > between Vedic R̥c and Yajus is also based on metrical versus prose > compositions. Will see if I can locate the textual reference for this > discussion. That is something to consider in the history of Sanskrit prose. > > Madhav M. Deshpande > Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA > Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies > Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, India > > [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] > > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 10:00 PM Aleix Ruiz Falqués via INDOLOGY < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Many thanks to Prof. Tieken and those kind souls who have replied >> privately! And thanks to the admin of this list for the wonderful resource! >> >> I would like to share a recent article by Sivan Goren-Arzony, directly >> related to my question, and from which I benefited a great deal (please see >> attachment). >> >> Best wishes, >> Aleix >> >> On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 at 22:07, Tieken, H.J.H. (Herman) < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Aleix, >>> You raise a very interesting topic. I checked two publications (Walter >>> J. Ong, Orality and Literacy, and Rosalind Thomas, Literacy and Orality in >>> Ancient Greece). Both authors do not discuss prose (not found in the >>> respective indexes). They deal with the opposition between orality/oral >>> *poetry* and literacy, almost as if literacy subsumes *prose* (including >>> inventory lists, shopping lists, etc.) >>> With kind regards, Herman >>> >>> >>> Herman Tieken >>> Stationsweg 58 >>> 2515 BP Den Haag >>> The Netherlands >>> 00 31 (0)70 2208127 >>> website: hermantieken.com >>> ------------------------------ >>> *Van:* INDOLOGY <[email protected]> namens Aleix Ruiz >>> Falqués via INDOLOGY <[email protected]> >>> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 13 januari 2023 14:41 >>> *Aan:* Indology List <[email protected]> >>> *Onderwerp:* [INDOLOGY] What is "prose"? >>> >>> Dear List, >>> >>> I am looking for publications on the concept of "prose" in Sanskrit. >>> Whereas definitions of "verse" are more or less common, if only by looking >>> at examples of specific types of stanzas or verses, it seems that the >>> concept of prose is more vague, generally meaning "whatever is not >>> organised in pādas". Of course, in poetic treatises the concept *gadya * >>> or* cūrṇa* is used, and genres like the *campū* presuppose the >>> dichotomy verse-prose. But I would like to know if this is critically >>> discussed elsewhere. >>> >>> Apart from references to primary sources in Indian texts, I am also >>> interested in definitions of Sanskrit (or Prakrit, or Tamil, etc.) prose in >>> modern scholarly literature. My understanding is that a concept like >>> "Sanskrit prose" is taken for granted and we all are supposed to know what >>> it means, so it is difficult to find definitions or sub-classifications of >>> it. This seems to happen with Pali, and the moment we try to classify types >>> of prose we are already discussing literary genres or types of texts (the 9 >>> aṅgas), not types of prose per se, with the exception, perhaps, with the >>> so-called metrical prose of the veḍha (varṇaka) portions. >>> >>> I am also interested in the origins or verse and prose in general, in >>> world literature. >>> >>> Any help will be most appreciated. >>> >>> With best wishes, >>> Aleix >>> >>> -- >>> Aleix Ruiz-Falqués >>> Pali Lecturer & Head of the Department of Pali and Languages >>> Shan State Buddhist University >>> Phaya Phyu, Taunggyi, Myanmar 140101 >>> (+95) 09428757648 >>> >> >> >> -- >> Aleix Ruiz-Falqués >> Khyentse Postdoctoral Fellow, Hebrew University of Jerusalem >> Pali Lecturer & Head of the Department of Pali and Languages >> Shan State Buddhist University >> Phaya Phyu, Taunggyi, Myanmar 140101 >> (+95) 09428757648 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >
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