Thank you Matthew. Much appreciated. Best wishes, Howard
> On Jul 10, 2023, at 1:51 AM, Matthew Kapstein <mattkapst...@proton.me> wrote: > > Dear Howard, > > It has nothing to do with the Gītā and I do not recall if it explicitly > engages with Euthyphro, but this may nevertheless be pertinent to the > philosophical issues that concern you, if you’re not already familiar with it: > > https://global.oup.com/academic/product/divine-commands-and-moral-requirements-9780198244134?cc=fr&lang=en&; > > Good luck, > Matthew > > Matthew Kapstein > Paris > > Sent from Proton Mail for iOS > > > On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 05:05, Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY > <indology@list.indology.info <mailto:On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 05:05, Nagaraj > Paturi via INDOLOGY <<a href=>> wrote: >> >> Just noticed that there was an inadvertent typing in my post . I wanted to >> say >> >> इति ते ज्ञानमाख्यातं गुह्याद्गुह्यतरं मया। >> >> विमृश्यैतदशेषेण यथेच्छसि तथा कुरु।।18.63।। >> >> too shows that the author of Geetaa does not make Krishna's words any >> command. >> That getting typed as >> >> divine command too shows that the author of Geetaa does not make Krishna's >> words any command >> >> was some inadvertent typing mistake. >> >> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 4:39 AM Howard Resnick <h...@ivs.edu >> <mailto:h...@ivs.edu>> wrote: >>> Thank you again Nagaraj, especially for the insight on Bg 3.2 >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Howard >>> >>>> On Jul 9, 2023, at 9:08 AM, Nagaraj Paturi <nagarajpat...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:nagarajpat...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I do not know whether in the Greek philosophical discussion, the question >>>> of adhikaarabheda was brought by either Plato or Euthyphro with regard to >>>> the question of >>>> >>>> are some acts good because the gods command them, or do the gods command >>>> them because they are good >>>> >>>> But in a typical Vedic / Indic setup of such discussions , >>>> >>>> answers to such questions are resolved through the method of adhikaara >>>> bheda >>>> >>>> For a non scholarly adhikaari : some acts good because the gods command >>>> them, >>>> >>>> and for a scholarly adhikaari : the gods command them because they are >>>> good >>>> >>>> scholarly adhikaari does not hesitate to reason out why the acts are good >>>> independent of the command from the god(s) and then reason out that as the >>>> reason for the god(s) commanding it >>>> >>>> a non scholarly adhikaari does not put that effort to reasoning and >>>> follows the easy path of reasoning, namely those acts are good because the >>>> gods command them. >>>> >>>> The verses such as >>>> >>>> सर्वोपनिषदो गावो दोग्धा गोपालनन्दनः । >>>> पार्थो वत्सः सुधीर्भोक्ता दुग्धं गीतामृतं महत् >>>> >>>> in " Geetaamaahatmya" , >>>> >>>> do not reflect any attitude of command towards the sentences addressed by >>>> Krishna to Arjuna. Such verses do not hesitate to characterize the >>>> sentences addressed by Krishna to Arjuna as the summary distilled from >>>> older texts Upanishads that are not actually viewed as 'His' command. >>>> Upanishads have many examples of reasoning out to lead to certain >>>> conclusions. >>>> >>>> Scholars in their discussions , deliberations , bhaashyas, vyaakhyaanas , >>>> vaakyaarthas, shaastraarthas, pravachanas etc., spend a great amount of >>>> their discourse in reasoning out the logical validity of the sentences >>>> addressed by Krishna to Arjuna. >>>> >>>> Why, Arjuna himself is made to reason out with Krishna regarding the >>>> reasonability or quality of making sense in the words of Krishna and goes >>>> to the extent of saying , >>>> >>>> व्यामिश्रेणेव वाक्येन बुद्धिं मोहयसीव मे । तदेकं वद निश्चित्य येन >>>> श्रेयोऽहमाप्नुयाम् 3-2. >>>> >>>> " येन श्रेयोऽहमाप्नुयाम् " >>>> >>>> shows that Arjuna is asking for the basis of श्रेयः for the validity of >>>> the instruction, not reflecting any attitude of following the instruction >>>> just because it is a divine command. >>>> >>>> इति ते ज्ञानमाख्यातं गुह्याद्गुह्यतरं मया। >>>> >>>> विमृश्यैतदशेषेण यथेच्छसि तथा कुरु।।18.63।। >>>> >>>> divine command too shows that the author of Geetaa does not make Krishna's >>>> words any command. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 5:01 PM Uskokov, Aleksandar via INDOLOGY >>>> <indology@list.indology.info <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> wrote: >>>>> Also pertinent may be: >>>>> >>>>> Bina Gupta. "’Bhagavad Gītā’ as Duty and Virtue Ethics: Some >>>>> Reflections.” The Journal of Religious Ethics, Vol. 34, No. 3 (Sep., >>>>> 2006), pp. 373-395 >>>>> Not set in terms of the Euthyphro dilemma, but Kant's ethics of duty has >>>>> some affinity with it. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> Aleksandar >>>>> >>>>> Aleksandar Uskokov >>>>> Senior Lector and Associate Research Scholar >>>>> South Asian Studies Council and Department of Religious Studies, Yale >>>>> University >>>>> 203-432-1972 | aleksandar.usko...@yale.edu >>>>> <mailto:aleksandar.usko...@yale.edu> >>>>> "The Philosophy of the Brahma-sutra: An Introduction" >>>>> https://www.amzn.com/1350150002/ >>>>> >>>>> Office Hours Sign-up: https://calendly.com/aleksandar-uskokov >>>>> From: INDOLOGY <indology-boun...@list.indology.info >>>>> <mailto:indology-boun...@list.indology.info>> on behalf of Alex Watson >>>>> via INDOLOGY <indology@list.indology.info >>>>> <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2023 7:15 AM >>>>> To: Howard Resnick <h...@ivs.edu <mailto:h...@ivs.edu>>; Indology List >>>>> <indology@list.indology.info <mailto:indology@list.indology.info>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] Gita moral philosophy >>>>> Dear Howard >>>>> >>>>> I don't think any of the following discuss the Euthyphro dilemma >>>>> specifically, but they all analyze 'the ethics of the Gītā' using either >>>>> the framework of the consequentialism / deontology / virtue ethics >>>>> trichotomy or the categories of western axiology. >>>>> >>>>> Perrett, Roy W. 1998. Hindu Ethics: A Philosophical Study. The Gīta's >>>>> ethics are discussed in all 4 chapters, but especially the first 3. >>>>> >>>>> Perrett, Roy W. 2005. 'Hindu Ethics?' In The Blackwell Companion to >>>>> Religious Ethics. Edited by William Schweiker. Oxford: Blackwell >>>>> Publishing, pp. 323–29. >>>>> >>>>> Sreekumar, Sandeep. 2012. 'An Analysis of Consequentialism and Deontology >>>>> in the Normative Ethics of the Bhagavadgītā.' Journal of Indian >>>>> Philosophy 40: 277–315. >>>>> >>>>> Frazier Jessica. 2021. 'Ethics in Classical Hindu Philosophy: Provinces >>>>> of Consequence, Agency, and Value in the Bhagavad Gītā and Other Epic and >>>>> Śāstric Texts.' Religions 12(11), 1029; >>>>> https://doi.org/10.3390/rel12111029 >>>>> >>>>> See also: >>>>> Roy Perrett & Glen Pettigrove. 2015. 'Hindu Virtue Ethics.' In Michael >>>>> Slote & Lorraine Besser-Jones (eds.), The Routledge Companion to Virtue >>>>> Ethics. New York: Routledge. pp. 51-62. >>>>> >>>>> Yours >>>>> Alex >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 10:55 AM Howard Resnick <h...@ivs.edu >>>>> <mailto:h...@ivs.edu>> wrote: >>>>> Dear Scholars, >>>>> >>>>> I would appreciate references to articles or books, available digitally, >>>>> that analyze the Gita’s moral philosophy, especially but not exclusively >>>>> from the standpoint of Western moral philosophy. More specifically, I >>>>> wish to explore what for me is the dubious claim that the Euthyphro >>>>> dilemma necessarily problematizes divine command theories of moral >>>>> realism. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry if this is a rather abstruse request. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> Howard >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Alex Watson >>>>> Professor of Indian Philosophy >>>>> Ashoka University >>>>> https://ashokauniversity.academia.edu/AlexWatson >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>>> INDOLOGY@list.indology.info <mailto:INDOLOGY@list.indology.info> >>>>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Nagaraj Paturi >>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>>> >>>> >>>> Senior Director, IndicA >>>> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >>>> BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra >>>> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. >>>> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru >>>> BoS Rashtram School of Public Leadership >>>> Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Studies in Public Leadership >>>> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, >>>> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >>>> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Nagaraj Paturi >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >> Senior Director, IndicA >> BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra >> BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra >> BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. >> Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru >> BoS Rashtram School of Public Leadership >> Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Studies in Public Leadership >> Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, >> FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, >> Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. >> >> >>
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