Looks fantastic, Sebastian! The new grammar feature seems super slick. As you've mentioned so many times, let the user beware of relying blindly on results, but as a supplemental tool, it's a jewel. 💎
Coding up corresponding changes in Skrutable as we speak... 😉 Tyler ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Sebastian Nehrdich <[email protected]> > To: Indology List <[email protected]> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 07:15:02 +0900 > Subject: [INDOLOGY] Introducing Dharmamitra.org, grammatical analyzers and > machine translation for Sanskrit > Dear List members, > > This is to briefly introduce dharmamitra.org, a project lead by Kurt > Keutzer and myself at BAIR, UC Berkeley, focussing on providing various > GenAI-driven applications for classical Asian languages. > > We recently finished work on a set of neural Sanskrit grammatical analyzer > tools together with Oliver Hellwig based on the annotations of the DCS. > This annotation system is now part of the interactive interface at > dharmamitra.org: When typing Sanskrit input into the translation box, a > button with the label 'grammar' appears below the translation box and when > clicking on this, the analyzed Sanskrit sentences become visible. This > tools currently provides word segmentation, lemmatization and > morphosyntactic tagging. > > We also have inference scripts for this system on this github repository > for those of you who want to run the tools independently on their own > machine (a GPU is advisable as it might otherwise be very slow): > https://github.com/sebastian-nehrdich/sanskrit-analyzers > Among these applications you will also find dependency parsing for Vedic > Sanskrit, a function we do not yet support interactively on the website, > > A publication on the architecture, data etc. used for these tools is > currently on the way. > > We also are open to providing API access for individuals and projects that > would like to use these tools in their workflow. Feel free to contact us if > you are interested! > > Dharmamitra.org also works on providing machine translation capabilities > for Sanskrit into English and other languages. In case you are interested > in this topic and would like to learn more, perhaps even collaborate or > contribute in some way, feel free to reach out to us. We are more than > happy to work together with people that want to explore the possibilities > of this technology. > > With best wishes, > > Sebastian Nehrdich > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Howard Resnick <[email protected]> > To: Matthew Kapstein <[email protected]> > Cc: Indology List <[email protected]> > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:19:47 -0700 > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] tapasya > Thank you Matthew. If I understand correctly your reference to autonomy > and heteronomy, then among many applications it reminds me of the common > scenario where Indra feels threatened by an aspiring yogī or tapasvī, and > sends an apsara to break the yogī’s tapas and thus neutralize his power. > Thus the yogī loses his autonomy and with it his power. In that sense > extreme tapas might be seen as liberating the soul from dependence on the > body, with extreme detachment producing extreme power. > > Just an idea… > > Thanks again, > Howard > > On Aug 28, 2024, at 1:20 AM, Matthew Kapstein <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Howard, > > For some reason, I think that Heinrich Zimmer, > may have written about this, but I’m away from my library and can’t recall > exactly where. Maybe Philosophies of India. He was a Schopenhauerian, which > would make good sense here, as the problem of the autonomy or heteronomy of > the will seems clearly central to the topic that interests you. > > good luck > Matthew > > Sent from Proton Mail <https://proton.me/mail/home> for iOS > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 05:29, Howard Resnick via INDOLOGY < > [email protected] > <On+Wed,+Aug+28,+2024+at+05:29,+Howard+Resnick+via+INDOLOGY+%3C%3Ca+href=>> > wrote: > > Dear Scholars, > > Within various genres of Sanskrit literature, perhaps especially > itihāsa-purāṇa, we find a pervasive belief that tapasya — serious austerity > -- bestows power on the performer, either directly or through the agency of > a Deva, Ṛṣi, or other superior being. The examples are almost innumerable. > > I’m trying to explore this claim about the power of tapasya. On the > empirical side, one can speak of the power of mental discipline and > detachment from the body, etc. But of course empirically, there is nothing > like the supernatural results obtained by serious ascetics in the ancient > literature. > > One common apologetic is to attribute or assign such powers to the > previous three yugas, with the claim that those powers fail in Kali-yuga. > > I bring this up because I am working on a reconstruction of the famous > Mahābhārata story of Ambā who performed unimaginable tapasya, and then, as > a result, took birth as Śikhaṇḍī and enabled the killing of Bhīṣma at > Kurukṣetra. > > The facile explanation of course is to invoke the notion of pre-scientific > mythology. I am trying to take a more cautious approach. Of course tapasya > as a source of power intersects the notion of attaining yoga-siddhis, a > process in which tapasya is also heavily involved. > > I bring this up in a heuristic, exploratory way and would be grateful for > any observations, insights, or theories about this, especially the link > between severe self-abnegation and power. > > Thanks in advance! > > Howard > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Howard Resnick <[email protected]> > To: Nagaraj Paturi <[email protected]> > Cc: Matthew Kapstein <[email protected]>, Indology List < > [email protected]> > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 17:28:57 -0700 > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] tapasya > Thank you Nagaraj. How do interpret the appositional relation between > śrānta and tapta? > > On Aug 28, 2024, at 2:24 AM, Nagaraj Paturi <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Brihadaranyaka Upanishad uses the word tap in both the senses of burning > and deep meditation connecting the two meanings into one. It uses the words > s'raanta and tapta sequentially hinting at a synonimity between them. > > asya śrāntasya taptasya tejoraso niravartatāgniḥ || BrhUp_1,2.2 || > > so 'kāmayata -- bhūyasā yajñena bhūyo yajeyeti | > so 'śrāmyat | > sa tapo 'tapyata | > tasya śrāntasya taptasya yaśo vīryam udakrāmat | > prāṇā vai yaśo vīryam | > tat prāṇeṣūtkrānteṣu śarīraṃ śvayitum adhriyata | > tasya śarīra eva mana āsīt || BrhUp_1,2.6 || > > tasmāt sarvadevatyaṃ prokṣitaṃ prājāpatyam ālabhante | > eṣa vā aśvamedho ya eṣa tapati | > tasya saṃvatsara ātmā | > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 1:50 PM Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Howard, >> >> For some reason, I think that Heinrich Zimmer, >> may have written about this, but I’m away from my library and can’t >> recall exactly where. Maybe Philosophies of India. He was a >> Schopenhauerian, which would make good sense here, as the problem of the >> autonomy or heteronomy of the will seems clearly central to the topic that >> interests you. >> >> good luck >> Matthew >> >> Sent from Proton Mail <https://proton.me/mail/home> for iOS >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 05:29, Howard Resnick via INDOLOGY < >> [email protected] >> <On+Wed,+Aug+28,+2024+at+05:29,+Howard+Resnick+via+INDOLOGY+%3C%3Ca+href=>> >> wrote: >> >> Dear Scholars, >> >> Within various genres of Sanskrit literature, perhaps especially >> itihāsa-purāṇa, we find a pervasive belief that tapasya — serious austerity >> -- bestows power on the performer, either directly or through the agency of >> a Deva, Ṛṣi, or other superior being. The examples are almost innumerable. >> >> I’m trying to explore this claim about the power of tapasya. On the >> empirical side, one can speak of the power of mental discipline and >> detachment from the body, etc. But of course empirically, there is nothing >> like the supernatural results obtained by serious ascetics in the ancient >> literature. >> >> One common apologetic is to attribute or assign such powers to the >> previous three yugas, with the claim that those powers fail in Kali-yuga. >> >> I bring this up because I am working on a reconstruction of the famous >> Mahābhārata story of Ambā who performed unimaginable tapasya, and then, as >> a result, took birth as Śikhaṇḍī and enabled the killing of Bhīṣma at >> Kurukṣetra. >> >> The facile explanation of course is to invoke the notion of >> pre-scientific mythology. I am trying to take a more cautious approach. Of >> course tapasya as a source of power intersects the notion of attaining >> yoga-siddhis, a process in which tapasya is also heavily involved. >> >> I bring this up in a heuristic, exploratory way and would be grateful for >> any observations, insights, or theories about this, especially the link >> between severe self-abnegation and power. >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Howard >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > > -- > Nagaraj Paturi > > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > Dean, IndicA > BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra > BoS Kavikulaguru Kalidasa Sanskrit University, Ramtek, Maharashtra > BoS Veda Vijnana Gurukula, Bengaluru. > Member, Advisory Council, Veda Vijnana Shodha Samsthanam, Bengaluru > Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies, > FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of Liberal Education, > Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA. > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Howard Resnick <[email protected]> > To: Edwin Bryant <[email protected]> > Cc: Indology List <[email protected]> > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:00:31 -0700 > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] tapasya > Thank you for your interesting comments, and your very interesting paper > on Yoga-sūtra ontology. > > Can you say more on the specific way that tapasya connects the puruṣa to > unlimited power or being, within the Sāṅkhya system? > > Gratefully, > Howard > > On Aug 28, 2024, at 3:50 AM, Edwin Bryant <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Yoga Sutras IV.1 indicates that siddhis can be attained though 5 different > methods, one of which is tapas (even as Patanjali is clear that these are > of no interest to those seeking samadhi, but only to those whose minds are > flowing "outward," [III.37], viz, towards bhoga). As you note, claims > pertaining to the attainment of siddhis are accepted without question by > almost all traditions, Buddhist, Jain and Vaidica, in both folk (e.g. > Puranic literature and its offshoots) and rationalist expressions > (e.g.Nyaya and Vedanta). These are very serious thinkers whose > accomplishments continue to impress us today: you do well to engage such > claims seriously rather than in a facile ,reflexive manner. > > For an extended discussion on the metaphysics underpinning the siddhis as > logical and coherent extensions of Samkhya philosophical presuppositions, > see: > > > https://sites.rutgers.edu/edwin-bryant/wp-content/uploads/sites/169/2023/12/s42240-020-00073-z.pdf > > EB. > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* INDOLOGY <[email protected]> on behalf of > Howard Resnick via INDOLOGY <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 27, 2024 3:29 PM > *To:* Indology List <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [INDOLOGY] tapasya > > Dear Scholars, > > Within various genres of Sanskrit literature, perhaps especially > itihāsa-purāṇa, we find a pervasive belief that tapasya — serious austerity > -- bestows power on the performer, either directly or through the agency of > a Deva, Ṛṣi, or other superior being. The examples are almost innumerable. > > I’m trying to explore this claim about the power of tapasya. On the > empirical side, one can speak of the power of mental discipline and > detachment from the body, etc. But of course empirically, there is nothing > like the supernatural results obtained by serious ascetics in the ancient > literature. > > One common apologetic is to attribute or assign such powers to the > previous three yugas, with the claim that those powers fail in Kali-yuga. > > I bring this up because I am working on a reconstruction of the famous > Mahābhārata story of Ambā who performed unimaginable tapasya, and then, as > a result, took birth as Śikhaṇḍī and enabled the killing of Bhīṣma at > Kurukṣetra. > > The facile explanation of course is to invoke the notion of pre-scientific > mythology. I am trying to take a more cautious approach. Of course tapasya > as a source of power intersects the notion of attaining yoga-siddhis, a > process in which tapasya is also heavily involved. > > I bring this up in a heuristic, exploratory way and would be grateful for > any observations, insights, or theories about this, especially the link > between severe self-abnegation and power. > > Thanks in advance! > > Howard > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > [email protected] > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flist.indology.info%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Findology&data=05%7C02%7Cedbryant%40connect.rutgers.edu%7C567be55856e446d8b07208dcc711b8f3%7Cb92d2b234d35447093ff69aca6632ffe%7C1%7C0%7C638604126169375529%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=BOF%2FgY%2BjuqYR1mDnhOJM33Q6B1PL%2B4eG%2FIqURheWgK8%3D&reserved=0 > <https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology> > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Howard Resnick <[email protected]> > To: "Michaels, Prof. Dr. Axel" <[email protected]> > Cc: Indology List <[email protected]> > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 18:17:36 -0700 > Subject: Re: [INDOLOGY] tapasya > Thank you very much for your kind help. > Best wishes, > Howard > > On Aug 28, 2024, at 8:08 AM, Michaels, Prof. Dr. Axel via INDOLOGY < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I guess you know the following study (in German): Monika Shee: *tapas und > tapasvin in > der erzählenden Partien des Mahābhārata*. Hamburg: Verlag Dr. Inge > Wezler, 1986. > It’s a detailed philological study. Pp. 204-14 (“*tapas*, *yoga*, *sa**ṃ* > *nyāsa*” and ”*tapas* und Magie”) seem to be especially instructive for > your question. If you need a scan, don’t hesitate to let it me know. > Best wishes, > Axel / Michaels > > > *From: *INDOLOGY <[email protected]> on behalf of " > [email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Reply to: *Patrick Olivelle <[email protected]> > *Date: *Wednesday, 28. August 2024 at 16:12 > *To: *Matthew Kapstein <[email protected]> > *Cc: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [INDOLOGY] tapasya > > There is also the book by Walter O. Kaelber, *Tapta Mārga.* > <image001.png> > Tapta Marga: Asceticism and Initiation in Vedic India > <https://www.amazon.com/Tapta-Marga-Asceticism-Initiation-Vedic-India/dp/0887068138> > amazon.com > <https://www.amazon.com/Tapta-Marga-Asceticism-Initiation-Vedic-India/dp/0887068138> > > > > > On Aug 28, 2024, at 3:20 AM, Matthew Kapstein via INDOLOGY < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Howard, > > For some reason, I think that Heinrich Zimmer, > may have written about this, but I’m away from my library and can’t recall > exactly where. Maybe Philosophies of India. He was a Schopenhauerian, which > would make good sense here, as the problem of the autonomy or heteronomy of > the will seems clearly central to the topic that interests you. > > good luck > Matthew > > Sent from Proton Mail <https://proton.me/mail/home> for iOS > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 05:29, Howard Resnick via INDOLOGY < > [email protected] > <On%20Wed,%20Aug%2028,%202024%20at%2005:29,%20Howard%20Resnick%20via%20INDOLOGY%20%3c%3ca%20href=>> > wrote: > > Dear Scholars, > > Within various genres of Sanskrit literature, perhaps especially > itihāsa-purāṇa, we find a pervasive belief that tapasya — serious > austerity -- bestows power on the performer, either directly or through the > agency of a Deva, Ṛṣi, or other superior being. The examples are almost > innumerable. > > I’m trying to explore this claim about the power of tapasya. On the > empirical side, one can speak of the power of mental discipline and > detachment from the body, etc. But of course empirically, there is nothing > like the supernatural results obtained by serious ascetics in the ancient > literature. > > One common apologetic is to attribute or assign such powers to the > previous three yugas, with the claim that those powers fail in Kali-yuga. > > I bring this up because I am working on a reconstruction of the famous > Mahābhārata story of Ambā who performed unimaginable tapasya, and then, as > a result, took birth as Śikhaṇḍī and enabled the killing of Bhīṣma at > Kurukṣetra. > > The facile explanation of course is to invoke the notion of pre-scientific > mythology. I am trying to take a more cautious approach. Of course tapasya > as a source of power intersects the notion of attaining yoga-siddhis, a > process in which tapasya is also heavily involved. > > I bring this up in a heuristic, exploratory way and would be grateful for > any observations, insights, or theories about this, especially the link > between severe self-abnegation and power. > > Thanks in advance! > > Howard > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Rolf Heinrich Koch <[email protected]> > To: indology <[email protected]> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 11:51:59 +0200 > Subject: [INDOLOGY] sinhalese thūpavaṃsaya manuscript > Dear listmembers, > > may be someone among you got a copy of the above mentioned manuscript? > The British Library is closed for this services. > > Thank you > > Heiner > > -- > Dr. Rolf Heinrich Koch - Germany/Sri Lanka > www.rolfheinrichkoch.wordpress.com > > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >
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