Thank you. This is all quite interesting and useful. Though it does not, yet, pin down deva-bhāṣā.
Patrick On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 10:11 PM Nagaraj Paturi via INDOLOGY < [email protected]> wrote: > Patrick ji seems to be looking for the origins of the exact compound > devabhaashaa. > > If the vigraha of this compound is given > as bhaashaa spoken by devas, > > Devii vaak does not fit the context, > > Since > > Here, devaah are being described as the ones who created/ generated, not > those who spoke devii vaak > > This mantra describes vaak in general, speech in general as devii and > there is no evidence that this is a reference to a specific language like > Sanskrit. > > This line is followed by the line "taam viswaroopaah pas'avo vadanti " > > also. > > > > > On Fri, 21 Mar 2025, 6:21 pm Madhav Deshpande via INDOLOGY, < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> The Jain Bhagavaī-Sutta says: *devā kyarāe bhāsāe bhasanti? devā >> addhmāgahāe bhāsāe bhāsanti*. While the Jains would probably not call >> Ardhamāgadhī a Devabhāṣā in the same sense as Sanskrit is called a >> Devabhāṣā, they do insist that the Devas speak Ardhamāgadhī. Also note >> that the precursor of Devabhāṣā is the Vedic expression *devī vāk [devīṃ >> vācam ajanayanta devāḥ]*. The semantics have changed somewhat, but there >> is probably a connection. >> >> Madhav M. Deshpande >> Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics >> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA >> Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies >> Adjunct Professor, National Institute of Advanced Studies, Bangalore, >> India >> >> [Residence: Campbell, California, USA] >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 5:27 AM Shrikant Bahulkar via INDOLOGY < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I have already answered Patrick's question, referring to the Amarakosa >>> 1.33 >>> >>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025, 10:29 patrick mccartney via INDOLOGY, < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Friends, >>>> >>>> Does someone know of the earliest attestation for the *devabhāṣā* >>>> phrase? >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> >>>> Patrick McCartney, PhD >>>> Phoenix Fellow 2023–26, HIroshima University, Japan >>>> Visiting Fellow - South and South-east Asian Studies Department, Australian >>>> National University >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> INDOLOGY mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> INDOLOGY mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >> > > _______________________________________________ > INDOLOGY mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.indology.info/mailman/listinfo/indology >
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