On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Derrick Seymour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Derrick Seymour > <seymourdh at yahoo.com> wrote: >> Blake, >> >> --- Blake Hudson <blake at ispn.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Cyrus questions, lost emails, reconstruct >>> From: Derrick Seymour <seymourdh at yahoo.com> >>> To: info-cyrus at lists.andrew.cmu.edu >>> Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:20:28 AM >>> > I have been having a few problems as of late. >>> > >>> > First, lost emails. Well they aren't really > lost, >>> i >>> > have located them in the imap mail store under > the >>> > users name, kind of hidden i guess you would say. >>> not >>> > sure why that is. >>> > >>> > This happens randomly with incoming emails, maybe >>> one >>> > out of a couple thousand. >>> > >>> > My fix to this was to reconstruct the user box. >>> > >>> ... >>> > while this works, it seems to corrupt the inbox, >>> only >>> > the inbox all other folders stay intack. >>> > >>> ... >>> > sudo -u cyrus /usr/bin/cyrus/bin/reconstruct -i >>> > >>> > and of course this fixes the problem of the mail >>> box >>> > does not exist but i always seems to lose some >>> emails >>> > in the process, usually one or two users at > random >>> > >>> > You can probably see a very bad cycle here. >>> > >>> ... >>> >>> Sounds like bad RAM maybe corrupting the cyrus >>> databases... Any other >>> indication of file corruption or system >>> locking/freezing/rebooting >>> (things associated with bad memory) ? >>> >>> In a PC I'd run memtest86, dunno if that option is >>> available to you. >>> >>> -Blake >>> ---- >>> Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ >>> Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki >>> List Archives/Info: >>> http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html >>> >> >> No signs of bad memory, the server operates off a >> fiber channel RAID and there are no warnings or >> failures with that either. There are a couple of >> utilities i can try to test the memory, but i will > not >> have an answer on that until this weekend. >> >> Why would reconstruct -i work (minus the few >> disappearing emails) and reconstruct -r user/short >> name corrupt the inbox? > > What is the -i for ? > The -r was broken until last last 2.3.12 ! You must > use > $ reconstruct -r user/shortname/* > to take care of subdirectories and add -f to discover > unknown directories. > > > Can you give more information about your system ? OS, > cyrus version ? > How long did it operate without problems ? Did you > change anything ? Even > something you thing is unreleated ? > > >> I have to assume if the inbox >> didn't get corrupted that the missing emails in >> question would be there. I have tried to copy > emails >> from inbox to a folder in side the usernames folder, >> upon a reconstruct -r those emails are now viewable, >> but the main inbox is still corrupt. > > Try to reset the cyrus.index file before to > reconstruct, because cyreconstruct > could try to reuse it. > something like > # echo > cyrus.index > or just delete it > > > Regards > >> >> Just a few things I tried if any of this helps. >> >> Thanks again for you help in advance >> >> Derrick >> ---- >> Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ >> Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki >> List Archives/Info: > http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html >> > > > > > > I am on a mac os x server 10.3.9 > > not sure how to find the cyrus version, naive i > know...
I dont know anything to os x packaging > > the -i is from one of apples documents on how to > reconstruct the entire database for cyrus. the -r is > for a single user, knowing now that it is broken makes > a lot of sense with the problems i am having > reconstructing. -r is for "recursive" (on usual cyrus install) > > latest system changes was the installation of > spamassassin with procmail for the relay. This i > believe this caused my initial problem with the > disappearing emails. Not to concerned about that > right now, though i will be very happy to receive > suggestions on that. cyrus users use SIEVE instead of procmail. Of course sieve is not as flexible as procmail, but a lot lot faster, more secure, and part of cyrus Read this, to be sure your procmail configuration is compatible with cyrus http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mimap/chapter/ch09.html Is your mail store on a networked disk ? > > Main problem is to get reconstruct working, I will > deal with the disappearing emails later on, need to > get them back now and be able to get them back > reliably in the future until i fix the core problem > with the disappearing emails. > > updated info that i found: > > when i take a look at the mailbox.db for the user that > has a corrupted in box i get this.... > > myserver2:/var/imap user# sudo -u cyrus > /usr/bin/cyrus/bin/ctl_mboxlist -d | grep brokenuser > user.brokenuser default BROKENUSER lrswipcda > user.brokenuser.INBOX^Drafts default brokenuser > lrswipcda > user.brokenuser.INBOX^Sent default brokenuser > lrswipcda > user.brokenuser.INBOX^Trash default brokenuser > lrswipcda > > as you can see the inbox has the user in all caps, > makes sense now why they can't get into there inbox, i > believe this is case sensitive, so now how do i change > this back to lowercase and or which reconstruct > command (i know -r is broken) will work. I don't mind > the broken construct if i can edit the mailbox.db > successfully to fix the one issue with the caps. can > always do up a script. use cyradm to change ACL, using "sam" command > > i've checked other users, all of there info is in > lowercase.... > > thanks > > Derrick > > > ---- > Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ > Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki > List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html > -- Alain Spineux aspineux gmail com May the sources be with you ---- Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html