Xiyue Deng <[email protected]> writes:

> "Nickolai Dobrynin" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> tpeplt <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>> Xiyue Deng <[email protected]> writes:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks as though you might want to specify
>>>>> "[email protected]" rather than "[email protected]"
>>>>>
>>>>> See https://www.gnus.org/resources.html
>>>>>
>>>>> "Discussions about Gnus development takes place on the ding
>>>>> mailing list. It's a mid-volume list (10-30 messages per
>>>>> day) and is open for anyone interested.  To subscribe, send
>>>>> a message to [email protected] to subscribe. The address
>>>>> of the mailing list itself if [email protected]."
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!  As I mentioned in the first mail, I did try
>>>> "[email protected]" as well as "[email protected]", and
>>>> received no reply since.  And it looks like majordomo doesn't respond
>>>> either.
>>>
>>> Confirmed.  I tried several variations of email messages to
>>> [email protected] and got no response.
>>>
>>> 1. Subject: subscribe
>>>    <no text in message body>
>>>
>>> 2. Subject: subscribe
>>>    "subscribe" in message body
>>>
>>> 3. Subject: subscribe
>>>    "help" in message body
>>
>> Since this thread died down I also tried to subscribe and, surprise
>> surprise, got nowhere. I wanted to ask if people were able to subscribe
>> and a working strategy has emerged.
>>
>
> A possibility is that maybe I'm using Gmail which now requires a sender
> email to have SPF or DKIM which the ding request emails don't have so
> that Gmail is blocking those email replies for authentication.  I don't
> know for sure though.

I agree with you. Google likes DKIM very much!

Below are my postfix+opendkim logs:
<quote from mail.log of yw-1204.doraji.xyz>
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 postfix/smtpd[1820]: 2CB206F5: 
client=yw-0919.doraji.xyz[34.138.9.181]
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 postfix/smtpd[1850]: 35E9E841: 
client=yw-0919.doraji.xyz[34.138.9.181]
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 postfix/cleanup[1828]: 2CB206F5: 
message-id=<[email protected]>
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: 2CB206F5: yw-0919.doraji.xyz 
[34.138.9.181] not internal
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: 2CB206F5: not authenticated
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2822.From:  
[email protected]
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2822.Reply-To:  
[email protected]
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2822.X-Mailer:  MIME-tools 5.510 
(Entity 5.510)
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2821.MailFrom: 
[email protected]
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2821.MailFrom's domain (Best Guess): 
lists.math.uh.edu
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2822.Message-ID:  
<[email protected]>
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2822.To:  [email protected]
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2821.ORCPT: [email protected]
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2821.Received-1:  from 
lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu)#012#011by 
lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.97.1)#012#011(envelope-from 
<[email protected]>)#012#011id 
1ve51D-00000006Lzg-2G3r#012#011for [email protected];#012#011Thu, 08 Jan 2026 
23:26:39 -0600
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC5598.ADMD (Best Guess): 
lists.math.uh.edu
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: 2CB206F5: DKIM-Signature field added 
(s=yw-1204.doraji.xyz, d=doraji.xyz)
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: 2CB206F5: no signature data
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 postfix/qmgr[1543]: 2CB206F5: 
from=<[email protected]>, size=3165, nrcpt=1 
(queue active)
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 postfix/smtpd[1820]: disconnect from 
yw-0919.doraji.xyz[34.138.9.181] ehlo=2 starttls=1 mail=1 rcpt=1 data=1 quit=1 
commands=7
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 postfix/cleanup[1851]: 35E9E841: 
message-id=<[email protected]>
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: 35E9E841: yw-0919.doraji.xyz 
[34.138.9.181] not internal
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: 35E9E841: not authenticated
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2822.From:  
[email protected]
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2822.Reply-To:  
[email protected]
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2821.MailFrom: 
[email protected]
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2821.MailFrom's domain (Best Guess): 
lists.math.uh.edu
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2822.Message-ID:  
<[email protected]>
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2822.To:  
=?utf-8?Q?Byunghee_HWANG_=28=ED=99=A9=EB=B3=91=ED=9D=AC=29?=#012 
<[email protected]>
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2821.ORCPT: [email protected]
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC2821.Received-1:  from 
lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu)#012#011by 
lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.97.1)#012#011(envelope-from 
<[email protected]>)#012#011id 
1ve51D-00000006Lzk-3j8c#012#011for [email protected];#012#011Thu, 08 Jan 2026 
23:26:39 -0600
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: RFC5598.ADMD (Best Guess): 
lists.math.uh.edu
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: 35E9E841: DKIM-Signature field added 
(s=yw-1204.doraji.xyz, d=doraji.xyz)
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 opendkim[671]: 35E9E841: no signature data
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 postfix/qmgr[1543]: 35E9E841: 
from=<[email protected]>, size=2560, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 postfix/smtpd[1850]: disconnect from 
yw-0919.doraji.xyz[34.138.9.181] ehlo=2 starttls=1 mail=1 rcpt=1 data=1 quit=1 
commands=7
Jan  9 05:26:42 yw-1204 postfix/smtp[1852]: Verified TLS connection established 
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[108.177.15.26]:25: TLSv1.3 with cipher 
TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature 
ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256
Jan  9 05:26:43 yw-1204 postfix/smtp[1852]: 2CB206F5: 
to=<[email protected]>, 
relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[108.177.15.26]:25, delay=1.2, 
delays=0.13/0.03/0.27/0.73, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK  1767936403 
ffacd0b85a97d-432bd63484esi15534884f8f.598 - gsmtp)
Jan  9 05:26:43 yw-1204 postfix/qmgr[1543]: 2CB206F5: removed
Jan  9 05:26:44 yw-1204 postfix/smtp[1852]: Verified TLS connection established 
to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:400c:c0c::1a]:25: TLSv1.3 with cipher 
TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature 
ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256
Jan  9 05:26:44 yw-1204 postfix/smtp[1852]: 35E9E841: 
to=<[email protected]>, 
relay=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:400c:c0c::1a]:25, delay=2.6, 
delays=0.13/2/0.18/0.26, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 OK  1767936404 
ffacd0b85a97d-432bd62e2fesi15541364f8f.494 - gsmtp)
Jan  9 05:26:44 yw-1204 postfix/qmgr[1543]: 35E9E841: removed
</quote>


Sincerely,

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