Hello,
as mentioned in my message, sieveshell works. Managesieve also after
upgrading to 3.12 (according to the "testing sieve" procedure in cyrus
3.12 online). The problem with managesieve was a bit in the repository
of 3.10, and a subsequent problem with updating to 3.12 under manjaro
from AUR. So as mentioned, SIEVE seems to work, however enterin any of
the listed commands except "logout" state the mentioned error:
As I wrote:
>It means, that it seems as sieve itselv is somehow working.
Now, for me it is mandatory to get egroupware to work. None of the
plugins you mentioned for thunderbird (vacation etc.) work with the
current thunderbird version. A github/gitlab repository that seems to
have documentation in cyrillic only will not be installed in our IT.
The access from egroupware is done via horde. This works well with Cyrus
2.4/2.6 but stops working with 3.12. From what I understand there was no
change in specification during the time cyrus as updated from 2.6 to
3.12 so the assumption that the implementation of cyrus is done
differently is likely.
Therefore *my request was to get a better debugging to understand what
the error is and resolve the issue*.
>If the ManageSieve server is implemented in Cyrus IMAP correctly, and
you do not not describe a reproducible report demonstrating the
opposite, then switching to Dovecot will provide you just with a
different correctly running ManageSieve server. You might also want to
look for support for your system.
That is excatly the problem. Egroupware runs fine with dovecot, cyrus
2.4 and cyrus 2.6 (same as our previous groupware). However, not at all
with cyrus 3.12.
In my understanding that points straight to the sieve implementation of
cyrus 3.12.
Regards
T
Дилян Палаузов schrieb am 24.08.25 um 12:44:
Hello,
I advised you at
https://cyrus.topicbox.com/groups/info/Ta4efc40124588ec6-M5e38763f6e2dfa21dddbf1f0/sieve-vacation
to try a different ManageSieve client and I gave you a list of possible
ManageSieve clients. You have not stated, that these clients do not work. So
again, just try with several ManageSieve clients to read/writes Sieve scripts
on the server. If it works, then the server is setup correctly.
You said that you cannot get sieveshell running with Cyrus IMAP 3.10, but then
you upgraded to Cyrus IMAP 3.12 . You are not stating, that sieveshell fails
with Cyrus IMAP 3.12.
You try to use telnet, but you are not stating that the server deviates from
RFC 5804 (A Protocol for Remotely Managing Sieve Scripts). If you get an error
with telnet, then maybe you do not follow the protocol?
When it comes to the ManageSieve protocol, it first originated in Cyrus IMAP
and then was standardized over IETF. This lead to a difference whether to send
the output of unsolicited CAPABILITY command after authentication/security
layer upgrade. Cyrus IMAP had a toggle to switch between its original
behaviour and the RFC 5804 behaviour, which toggle was removed by
https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/pull/3346/ . This is mentioned also at
https://www.cyrusimap.org/dev/imap/download/release-notes/3.12/x/3.12.0.html
under Removed features.
If the ManageSieve server is implemented in Cyrus IMAP correctly, and you do
not not describe a reproducible report demonstrating the opposite, then
switching to Dovecot will provide you just with a different correctly running
ManageSieve server. You might also want to look for support for your system.
Greetings // Dilyan
-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Thorsten Brandau via Info <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Info <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Sieve/Vacation
Date: 24/08/25 12:45:24
Hi,
so, I was able to upgrade to cyrus 3.12 as the 3.10 package was broken
in the AUR.
telnet sieve works well. However, anything except "logout" that is
entered is replied with "was expecting command, got something else".
This is unfortunately as far as the cyrus documentation under "testing
sieve" goes.
It means, that it seems as sieve itselv is somehow working.
When I try to get this to work with egroupware, egroupware connects to
sieve but issues the same "expecting command, got something else".
egroupware is using horde for the connection to sieve.
I am at a point that it seems that cyrus 2.6 and 3.12 use different (?)
settings for sieve - it worked perfectly with 2.4/2.6 before. However,
for various reasons I cannot downgrade.
Is it possible to have cyrus 3.12 simulate ht 2.6 sieve behaviour?
There are no plugins for any mail program as it seems anymore to manage
vacation scripts. All groupware solutions I find (including both we
selected for our company - group-e from endo7 to be faded out and
egroupware as the current version) do not work with cyrus 3.12 on the
sieve level. Egroupware at last works with subfolders on cyrus 3.12.
If there is no solution we unfortunately have to move away from cyrus,
which seems ot lack substantially in support and will have to switch to
dovecot, which we avoided the last 20 years very successfully....
Any help? Any ideas? Any possibilities to isolate the problem? Currently
everywhere I ask I get rerouted to the other one side (cyrus -> its your
groupware , groupware -> go check horde/cyrus, horde -> who are you? )
Cheers
T
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