Considering I've been involved with infrastructure since at least 2004. I think 
I classify as one of the long term infrastructure guys and I do not agree with 
you. There is possibly some cases where it's better to just report upstream. 
How would we document and make sure that the message got out. There are many 
more times that the bug only belongs in fedora. I strongly believe fedora 
developers should be the gateway and the people with the relationship to 
upstream. It is right to require our users to possible have to create multiple 
bug reporting accounts in multiple upstreams? I personally do not think so.

Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 22:51:55 +0000
>"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>...snip...
>
>> And quite frankly I doubt that any of the infrastructure team that
>> has been here long enough disagrees with this being the right course
>> of action.
>
>Well, I do... or at least I don't find it to be any kind of super clear
>and compelling argument so far. 
>
>kevin
>
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