On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 13:40, Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com> wrote:

> Greetings everyone.
>
> I thought I would open a discussion about fedmsg-irc and what we want to
> do with it moving forward.
>
> First some background on what it is. ;)
>
> fedmg-irc is part of fedmsg (Our old zmq message bus). It's a small irc
> client that listens to the fedmsg bus and sends messages to a irc
> channel based on it's configuration. It used to send to a bunch of
> channels, but we dropped most of them off when we setup matrix bridges.
>
> The only two it has left are:
>
> 1. #fedora-fedmsg - This channel gets a constant stream of (most)
> everything from the message bus. (and #fedora-fedmsg-stg for staging)
>
> 2. #fedora-releng - This channel gets reports about releng related
> events (failed composes, compose starts, syncs, tickets, etc).
>
> Personally I have found 1 useful because my irc client logs it and I can
> use handy things like grep to look for messages. Also, if something is
> wrong and messages aren't flowing by there I can notice and fix things.
> Also, it's sometimes useful because you can use a IRC hilight and see
> messages of interest go by. All that said, there are probibly better
> ways to do all those things: I could make a fedora-messaging listener to
> just log everything, or get datagrepper better so I didn't want use grep
> or have alerts for lack of messages, etc.
>
> 2 is there because releng folks liked the notices about things and it
> allowed releng to react faster to things like failed composes, etc.
>
> So, likely we don't want to keep running the fedmsg-irc instances
> forver, but of course we can keep them going for a while.
>
> Options then would be:
>
> A) Just stop the service and let people figure out their own
> alternatives.
>
> B) Add something to do this to the FMN re-write (ie, have a way to
> configure a channel/room instead of a user)? (Ideally a matrix thing not
> a IRC thing)
>
>
are you able to get logs like you can with an irc client to search for
things?


> C) Retire the service, but write something based on fedora-messaging
> that interested folks could use to self service do the same thing.
> (Also ideally a matrix thing)
>
> D) Your idea here.
>
> Thoughts everyone?
>

I have suggested A in the past for various reasons, but realize that would
leave the person fixing things blind.. I now know how you were finding
various things I never could find. I think that some tool needs to be
written which uses fedora-messaging as the backend which meets your and
people in releng needs. I think adding this to FMN might be a good long
term ask but I don't know if it would be something that could be done
'quickly' (or at least before 2024 :)).



>
> kevin
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