> Hopefully I didn't give the wrong impression, but divergence is > certainly not a goal, as we want to share our engineering, and we'd like > to benefit from others' too. I think we actually will be able to > accomplish a fair amount of convergence in installation as we at Sun can > get more code open and can turn our focus more towards the future plans > I outlined almost six months ago. We've already started to do that by > working with Moinak on the Live Media project, and Ihope the other > distro's will start contributing there, too.
OK, I did misunderstand a bit there. Thanks for the clarification. (And, it wasn't that I saw divergence as a Great Problem(tm); I just saw it as more work for Sun.) :-) > Actually, we intend to make a lot of changes both visibly and under the > covers. This sounds good. > We aren't in a good position resource-wise to pursue them yet. Understood. Sad, but that's the economic reality we all live in. :-( There's a lot of money where I am, but it's all for "rig pigs" and construction workers. If you ain't somehow in oil, you ain't rakin' in the dough. > I don't think we have any requirements that will put us in the > position of having to duplicate work done in OpenSolaris, we may just > have to put additional work on that other distributions don't > immediately need. Ah, OK. This sounds better, and makes sense in the context of your other comments above. Hopefully, that additional work can be minimized. I think that, if the installer community (and the Live Media group) makes good choices, this can be easier rather than harder. There has been good discussion in this thread about what's needed, how others have done it, and some of the thinking (and the resulting constraints) Sun has put into the current model. Hopefully, the people with the skills can weave this into a fabric for a competitive and pleasing result. (And no, that was NOT deliberately made to sound like marketing-speak!) :-) > I agree that we need to make the requirements clear up front, and if > there's stuff that's not clear enough on the www.sun.com pages, please > submit feedback directly there, though I'll mention it to someone who I > think can pursue it. Great, thanks. I don't think there is any actual text on system requirements as you go through either the Solaris 10 or Solaris Express (Nevada) pages going to the download area. If there is, I've consistently missed it, though I've also never had an issue until this specific system. > Collaboration on documentation was the topic of a > 2+ hour meeting I just finished, and that included > Michelle, so the docs community is certainly something we're looking to > plug in more with our overall documentation strategy for installation. Excellent. I know Michelle (and others) has been doing a lot of work behind the scenes, and the ocassional pop of her head above the paper stacks to announce the posting of a new document or five is just the tip of the iceberg of what she and others have had to do to be able to make the announcement. (Please say "hi" for me.) I did also notice that there are more examples of installing just posted (I think that's what it was...), so this is moving forward. I may also pass on an installation summary of my current experience to help people, but I can try to discuss this with Michelle next week. (I resolved the install issue by combining RAM from two systems that, luckily, both used PC-100 RAM. Now to see how well it runs when I take the borrowed RAM back out...) Thanks again. This discussion has been a great help, and I hope a learning aid for more than just myself. As a SysAdmin, I rarely get to see why we are where we are on these types of things. I tend to have to focus on just getting the job done, or figuring out how to get around constraints without being able to explore why they exist in the first place. And as for time to learn new technologies...? That's mostly for my "spare time". Rainer This message posted from opensolaris.org
