On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Kyle McDonald wrote:
> Alan Coopersmith wrote:
>> Kyle McDonald wrote:
>>> Which 'older graphics environments' need SUNWCxsunserver?
>>
>> For now, SPARC machines and Sun Rays.   In the future, only SPARC
>> machines
>> with graphics cards older than PCI-Express (i.e. Sbus, UPA, and
>> original PCI).
>>
> That's good to know.
>>> I mean can't picking SUNWCfontlibs get you all the font libs,  and
>>> Picking SUNWxwrte some other time get you all the X11 run-time
>>> including the required font libs?
>>>
>>> I think SUNWCxwrte needed more than just SUNWxwxft though.
>>
>> SUNWxwxft requires the rest of SUNWCfontlibs.
>>
> I didn't itterate through it, I saw that it was 90% of the cluster and
> just through the whole cluster in. If I had added only the packages
> requested on that run, one of them may have then requested the others. :)
>
>
> Moving forward...
>
> Maybe I've got the wrong Idea, but I would have expected SUNWCreq to
> give me basically a working system, and as I said before if I want X11,
> the adding the SUNWCxwrte, and XSUNWCxsunserver clusters to give me X
> (With no GNOME or CDE, or Openwin desktop.)
>
> Next if I wanted GNOME I'd expect to add a GNOME cluster, for CDE a CDE
> cluster, etc.
>
> Right now, for some reason just to make the X11 Runtime happy, I've
> having to add 7 gnome packages. Some of which i can begrudgingly
> understand, but others that make no sense:
>
> SUNWCxwrte includes a package (XUNWxim I think.) that requires SUNWiiimu.
>
> SUNWiiimu requires:
>
> SUNWgnome-libs
> SUNWgnome-base-libs
> SUNWgnome-base-libs-root
> SUNWgnome-vfs
> SUNWgnome-config
> SUNWgnome-component
> SUNWgnome-panel
>
>
> Most of those I can find a relationship, but not SUNWgnome-vfs - What do
> input methods have to do with a virtual filesystem? (Then again why does
> a graphic desktop package need it's own virtual filesystem?)
>
> How does one install X11 without GNOME?
>
> Does SUNWiiimu really need everything in thsoe packages? or just a file
> here and there?
>
> Do I really need SUNWiiimu to keep SUNWxim happy?

Kyle,

I did some work in this area a while back that's loosely related to what
you're talking about. It doesn't really address the issues you raise, but
in case it helps...
     http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/User:Ericb/GettingSmall

In specific, I worked out a rudimentary way to install a minimal system
that had a minimal Xorg stack so that I could then add a lightweight (read
non-KDE, non-GNOME) window manager.

Also, in case not seen, there's a related discussion taking place here:
     http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=16031&tstart=0

Eric

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