>From: Dave Miner <Dave.Miner at Sun.COM> >To: "T.J. Yang" <tj_yang at hotmail.com> >CC: casper.dik at Sun.COM, install-discuss at opensolaris.org >Subject: Re: [install-discuss] Re: Solaris installation strategy >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:18:29 -0500 > >T.J. Yang wrote: >>>From: Casper.Dik at Sun.COM >... >>> >>>But does it use "pkgadd" and the Solaris native package database? >> >>Yes. TWW's pkg-inst when running on Solaris will call up pkgadd to do the >>installation so the package registry will be inserted into /var/sadm/pkg. >>pkg-rm will call up pkgrm and pkg-info will call up pkginfo. >> >>The most beautiful part is that I only need to know these three same >>commands (pkg-inst,pkg-rm and pkg-info) for package management work across >>most Unix platforms. A need that Sun don't care about but IT >>sysadm/manager will appreciate. >> > >I think we'd be open to working to a cross-platform package management >interface standard, but we can't do it in a vacuum.
The idea I am proposing to OpenSolaris community is to use TWW HPMS to create/manage opensolaris SVR4 packages. There is no extra package mangement interfaces need to be invented. The gaps between modern PMS and SVR4 packages like central package respository, package auto install upon dependency are already filled when using TWW HPMS on top of SVR4 pkgadd. If you look at TWW's supported OS platform (R1),you will find there is not much other OS platforms are not supported. >If the other platform vendors aren't interested, then we don't gain much >for the effort, and right now we have enough other things to do that I >don't feel we could take the lead on pushing for such a thing. I am not expecting OpenSolaris to push TWW HPMS. There is already a company doing the commercial development and support. I am only hoping OpenSolaris learn and adopt TWW HPMS to manage softwware. >Honestly, I don't have any feedback from customers (other than TJ) saying >that this is something they really want us to do. I think you are right on this, not many people complain about outdated SVR4 packagement system. I guess they just accept the fact and write their scripts to auotmate the package install and removal processess. But if you ask your customers if they need package repository support and package auto install by dependency. I believe they will say yes. please see R3, another example to illustrate benifits of TWW HPMS tools. One can do a "sb opensolaris.sb" command to automate opensolaris build process. (granted same functionality can be achieved by shell script or a makefile). Lastly, Not adopting TWW HPMS is understandable. but please don't switch to other PMS(like openpkg,apt-get etc). Same with your above statement, I have no bandwidth to handle two different PMS and their packages at the same time. Thanks for listening tj yang R1: http://www.thewrittenword.com/evaluate R2: ftp://support.thewrittenword.com/dists R3: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSolaris/Developer >Dave
