Did this email make it through to anyone on this list?

I understand that there's a lot of activitity here so people are
probably busy, but I've never seen 2+ weeks go by without some sort of
response to a message like this. Made me wonder fi it even got through?


  -Kyle



On 7/13/2010 12:21 PM, Kyle McDonald wrote:
> On 6/24/2010 8:12 PM, Ethan Quach wrote:
> 
> 
>> I have posted an updated revision to the derived manifests design.
> 
>> http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/download/Project+caiman/DerivedManifests/DerivedManifestsDesignSpec.pdf
> 
> 
>> Deltas from the previous version are interspersed throughout, but
>> the relevant areas of change are Section 5.
> 
>> Also note, I am taking a look a the ManifestParser/Writer design to
>> understand how the Manifest Input Module proposed in this design
>> would fit in with that, so further changes there may occur.  However,
>> majority of the document should be reviewable.  In particular, I would
>> like to get any additional feedback on the  AI server changes (Section
>> 5.3) sooner than later.
> 
> 
>> Comments by 7/1 appreciated.
> 
> 
> I've been away from this list for a while. So my appologies of finding
> this new project so late.
> 
> I'm actually very excited to see this is under development. I had given
> up hope a while ago.
> 
> I've nearly completed extending the scripting framework I used for years
> with JumpStart so that it can configure both KickStart and AutoYast
> installs also. I'm excited to see how easy/hard it will be to extend it
> to producing AI Manifests also.
> 
> So far I've only read part of the way through the document, but I read
> one thing that, while I don't object to (at least I can't think of any
> issues it will cause me yet,) I'm very curious why it's needed.
> 
> The section is:
> 
>> 5.2.6.1 Special aiuser account
> .
> .
> .
>> The script will only have limited write access to the system however,
>> to prevent misuse of the script doing anything other than deriving a
>> manifest file.
> 
> Why care?
> 
> If the system at this point is booted over the network (or media for
> that matter,) and running from a ramdisk, nothing the script might
> change will be permanent, or could affect the system.
> 
> Why is this 'Jail' required? let alone desirable?
> 
> If someone somewhere comes up with some great new thing that it makes
> sens to piggy back on this (related or not) why prevent that? That's not
> far fetched - I think JumpStart (but can't name any specific examples)
> was used a s building point for a number of other things. What's wrong
> with that?
> 
> I can understand wanting to only support a limited usage model, but do
> you have to actively put up barriers?
> 
> What's the difference between me developing and testing and debugging a
> script that breaks because a command is no longer available, and me
> developing testing and debugging a script that breaks because the
> command I wanted to run is not allowed to be used?
> 
> Seems like the same amount of hassle and work to me. I think you'll have
> more frustrated users complaining when the commands are there and
> available but they aren't allowed to use them, then if they are there
> and unsupported, and change in some way some day.
> 
> That said, as long as HW details can be determined, Other NFS
> directories mounted, and temporary files created, cat'd, grep'd, sed'd,
> and awk'd. I can't (off the top of my head) think of any reason why it
> would cause any problems for what I want to do.
> 
> I'm excited to read further. Thank you!
> 
> 
>  -Kyle
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> thanks,
>> -ethan
> 
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