>> That way you'll discover what you have misunderstood in your communication 
>> scenarios and packet formats.

How VPN works ? What a tunnel means ? 

Of course it works by encrypting the L3 packet header and adding a new L3 
header, is there a problem with this scenario.

IPv10 almost works like this without encryption of course and with only one 
header (or maybe we can add extension header if people choose that).

I don't see where is the problem, I don't work for Cisco or Microsoft to modify 
the code of networking and make the header contains a mixture of both version, 
ask them regarding this issue and they will answer better than me. 

Khaled Omar

-----Original Message-----
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 5:03 PM
To: Khaled Omar <[email protected]>
Cc: int-area <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Int-area] IPv10 draft (was Re: FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting 
Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10)

On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, Khaled Omar wrote:

> I’m not a code developer, really we are repeating same requirements, 
> so what is the meaning of a work group?!!!!!

Look into https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapy and craft the packets that way 
for your different deployment scenarios, and make diagrams/flow charts over how 
the information is processed by each type of node for each of your deployment 
scenarios.

That way you'll discover what you have misunderstood in your communication 
scenarios and packet formats.

Also include things like dns lookups for before L3 communication can even 
occur. Also study the POSIX socket interface and come up with the changes that 
need to be done there.

After you've done all this and documented it I think people might be a lot less 
dismissive of your ideas.

What you're asking for now is for people to spend time on your ideas (that 
basically all of us think are completely non-starters for us obvious reasons), 
instead I think you should put in more work to make your ideas more "baked". 
You'll also discover the problems with it once you start to dig deeper.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: [email protected]
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