@Andy: Thanks for the pointer. I quickly gazed through RFC 8469. If I read it 
right, RFC 8469 tackles the problem in PW where the PW would confuse an 
ethernet packet with IP packet. Therefore, the RFC recommends to include CW in 
all PW. For this particular discussion, we want to document the impacts and 
hope the community can provide guidelines to transition the current 
applications that rely on persistent mac-addresses.

Best,
Yiu


From: "Andrew G. Malis" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 6:33 PM
To: "Lee, Yiu" <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Stewart Bryant 
<[email protected]>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Int-area] Evaluate impact of MAC address randomization 
to IP applications

Yiu,

Just FYI, this issue came up several years ago with regard to randomized MAC 
addresses in Ethernet frames contained in Ethernet pseudowires. Stewart and I 
wrote RFC 8469 to address the resulting effects that were encountered in the 
field.

Cheers,
Andy


On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 3:50 PM Lee, Yiu 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi team,

We proposed a BoF. The agenda is in 
https://github.com/jlivingood/IETF109BoF/blob/master/109-Agenda.md<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/jlivingood/IETF109BoF/blob/master/109-Agenda.md__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!QWbd6a1T0QMccEhGrOtXVKTHTdHLnwMA4DxlOanMLZEGXFaL_FpvfezzG2N2rPY$>
 and the proposal is in 
https://github.com/jlivingood/IETF109BoF/blob/master/BoF-Proposal-20200918.md<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/jlivingood/IETF109BoF/blob/master/BoF-Proposal-20200918.md__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!QWbd6a1T0QMccEhGrOtXVKTHTdHLnwMA4DxlOanMLZEGXFaL_FpvfezzZRWfJ-E$>.
 You can also find the draft here 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lee-randomized-macaddr-ps-01<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lee-randomized-macaddr-ps-01__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!QWbd6a1T0QMccEhGrOtXVKTHTdHLnwMA4DxlOanMLZEGXFaL_FpvfezzMRRggvA$>.

At this stage, we are looking for inputs for more use cases and interests of 
working together in this domain. Please post your comments in the mailing list.

Thanks


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