Adrian,

I share your mood… The lukewarm call for adoption was both disappointing and a 
signal to use another path.

-éric

From: Adrian Farrel <[email protected]>
Organization: Old Dog Consulting
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, 15 January 2021 at 19:38
To: Eric Vyncke <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Int-area] Suggestion to move draft-olteanu-intarea-socks as 
Independent Submissions

Just to re-assert that the Independent Submissions Stream can publish 
Informational and Experimental RFCs.

I am usually saddened when a piece of work that is clearly relevant for the 
IETF is unable to get enough traction to be published through the IETF: 
adoption by a working group is not the only avenue to publication within the 
IETF. However, one of the reasons for the existence of the Independent 
Submissions Stream is to provide a way to publish relevant material as an RFC 
when the IETF is unable or unwilling to do so.

Best,
Adrian

From: Int-area <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
Sent: 15 January 2021 15:52
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Int-area] Suggestion to move draft-olteanu-intarea-socks as 
Independent Submissions

Indeed, but as the current intended status is experimental ;-) it should not be 
a problem

-éric

From: Behcet Sarikaya <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Friday, 15 January 2021 at 16:43
To: Eric Vyncke <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [Int-area] Suggestion to move draft-olteanu-intarea-socks as 
Independent Submissions

Hi Eric,

I am sure you know, all independent Submission documents can only be published 
as Informational.
I did not check what status the authors wish to have but it is good to mention 
here.

Regards,
Behcet

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 7:55 AM Eric Vyncke (evyncke) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Vladimir, Dragos,

While there was some interest in adopting the SOCKv6 document as an INT-AREA WG 
document, the lukewarm interest and lack of reviewer volunteers [1] are 
preventing the actual adoption of this document as a WG document (my AD 
decision in agreement with the chairs). After discussions with the IESG and our 
chairs (Juan Carlos and Wassim in cc), I want to propose to the authors an 
easier way to publish this document as an RFC but in the Independent 
Submissions (ISE) stream rather than in the usual IETF stream.

The simple process is outlined at https://www.rfc-editor.org/about/independent/ 
and “ISE” is described in RFC 4846.

This should allow this document to move forward and be published as a RFC.

Hope this helps

-éric (with JC & Wassim)

[1] I tried to contact the previous AFT WG proponents, SOCKS authors, and some 
open source SOCKS implementors without any reply on this topic.

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