Hi Uma,

 

> I just wanted to ask 

>  - If this is part of a series of side meetings on this broader topic?

>    (I remember a couple of IETFs back one side meeting on this topic

>    but couldn't find it in the github pointer). 

 

Nothing so structured as “a series”. But this is the third such meeting related 
to routing research that we have organised.

The previous two were:

*       https://github.com/danielkinguk/sarah/tree/main/IETF-111

Routing research challenges arising from evolving beyond and revitalizing the 
Internet

*       
https://github.com/danielkinguk/sarah/tree/main/conferences/security-workshop

Evolving Routing Security in the Internet

They were not much related to “addressing” so not shared on the INT Area list. 
But, the subject of this meeting includes addressing so that is why this email.

 

Do we have plans for more similar meetings? No nothing at the moment, but never 
say never.

 

> Is this effort related to what Luigi posted in this WG recently

>  <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/routing.addressing.manifesto> 
> https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/routing.addressing.manifesto 

> (btw, I signed up there)

 

Not directly related, no. Although you are right to observe that Luigi’s draft 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iannone-routing-and-addressing-manifesto)
 that promotes that sign-up is asking for a venue to discuss routing research. 

 

Best,

Adrian

 

From: Uma Chunduri <[email protected]> 
Sent: 03 November 2021 01:21
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Int-area] IETF-112 Side meeting on "Service Routing and 
Addressing"

 

Hi Adrian,

 

Many thx for leading this side meeting with many thought provoking sub-topics.

 

 I just wanted to ask 

                       - If this is part of a series of side meetings on this 
broader topic? ( I remember a couple of IETFs back one side meeting on this 
topic but couldn't find it in the github pointer). 

                       - Is this effort related to what Luigi posted in this WG 
recently -  <https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/routing.addressing.manifesto> 
https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/routing.addressing.manifesto (btw, I signed up 
there)

 

 

Are these two efforts related but seem independent (as service routing too 
being covered) ? Is this correct understanding?

 

Apologies if I misunderstood this completely. 

 

I strongly support having a mailing list (though this can still be discussed in 
INT-AREA as being done now) to discuss this broader topic so as not to confuse 
further. 

 

Best!

--

Uma C.

 

 

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 3:14 AM Adrian Farrel <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hi INT Area,

We'll be holding another side meeting at IETF-112 to bring important recent
research and discussion on Internet routing to the IETF. This one also has
an aspect of addressing, so you may be interested.

The topic will be "Service Routing and Addressing"

The meeting will be on Wednesday 10th November 2021 18.30-20.00 UTC and will
last 90 minutes.

We'll hold the meeting on WebEx
https://htf-paris.my.webex.com/htf-paris.my-en/j.php?MTID=m760a9ed9560f76ad3 
<https://htf-paris.my.webex.com/htf-paris.my-en/j.php?MTID=m760a9ed9560f76ad31a54a64d945ca86>
 
1a54a64d945ca86

It will be live-streamed on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx2G5QxS9Eo

An ICS file is attached.

The agenda will be...

1. Moderator's Introduction
   Adrian Farrel, Old Dog Consulting
   5 minutes

2. The ties that un-bind: decoupling IP from web services and sockets for
robust addressing agility at CDN-scale
   Vasileios Giotsas, Cloudflare Inc. and Lancaster University
   https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3452296.3472922
   20 minutes

3. RICE: Remote Method Invocation in ICN
   Michal Krol, City University, London
   https://conferences.sigcomm.org/acm-icn/2018/proceedings/icn18-final9.pdf
   20 minutes

4. Centralization of service provisioning and the impact on routing
   Geoff Huston, Chief Scientist, APNIC
   20 minutes

5. Open Discussion
   20 minutes

All of these details can be found on github
https://github.com/danielkinguk/sarah/tree/main/conferences/ietf-112

We'll post slides and a recording of the meeting as they become available.

See you there.
Adrian
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