Hi, Jim,
My boss (Yi Zhao) is here at the IETF, and he's on the IPSphere Board
of Directors, so I asked him tonight if they are planning to do
"standards", and he said the Board of Directors hasn't discussed plans
to do so.
If you'd like to talk with him for more details, please let me know.
We are at the IETF until Saturday morning.
Best wishes,
Spencer Dawkins
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From: "Bound, Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "James Kempf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Joe Touch"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Pekka Nikander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Internet Area" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "IAB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: [Int-area] Architectural reasons why tunnelling
isanindicationof a failure
Folks,
If you don't know talk about tunnels you might want to check out this
new forum called IPsphere who want to promote VPN services over the
Internet and are rumored to be wanting to build "standards". I am
tracking out of defense as industry SME for other forum than IETF, not
HP day job work. Virtualization is going to happen and it should not
always imply tunnels either and does not for networks.
http://www.ipsphereforum.org/home
/jim
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Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:58 AM
To: Joe Touch; Pekka Nikander
Cc: IAB; Internet Area
Subject: Re: [Int-area] Architectural reasons why tunnelling
is anindicationof a failure
Pekka,
I agree with Joe and Tony. Tunnels are a tool for
virtualizing the address
space. If you are going to propose that they are a flawed
tool, then I think
you need to propose an alternative that has "better" (for
some sense of the
word) properties. The only alternative I can think of (swapping IP
addresses in the header, i.e. NAT) is worse, but maybe there
are other
alternatives.
jak
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