El 04/06/2006, a las 18:02, Pekka Nikander escribió:

In my personal opinion, having ORCHIDs that are considered secure now and could be estimated to be secure for the next 20 years or so might be about the right size.

but in that case, you need to make ORCHIDs to support multiple hash functions, since i guess it is not that clear that we will stick to sha-1 for the next 20 years right?

ORCHIDs do support multiple hash functions, through different prefixes. What comes to SHA-1, it is not clear whether it would last for 20 years for the ORCHID purpose or not, but the same applies pretty much to any other hash function.


agree
but this point imho affects the length of the prefix.
I mean one thing is to assign a single /8 prefix to all orchids and a different thing is to assign a separate /8 per hash function and that if we need to move from a given hash function we need to forget the used prefix and get a new one.

I mean, after all, it is a matter of bits. We need to encode different hash functions in ORCHIDs. The question is whether we encode them in the prefix or in the suffix part. My point is that this needs also to be taken into account when deciding what would be the prefix length. If we use a very short prefix for this version of ORCHIDs and in the future we need to change the hash function, then we will need another very short prefix to support the ORCHIDs for the new hash function.

I think that the amount of address space required for the orchids would be clearer if the hash function was encoded in the suffix rather than in the prefix.

one /8 versus one /8 per hash fucntion used may be an important difference (depending on how well the attaks on hash functions evolve)

Regards, marcelo

--Pekka



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