marcelo bagnulo braun wrote:
[...]
>>> - DHCP support for CGAs. An analysis of possible approaches to allow
>>> the usage of the DHCP protocol to assign CGAs will be produced. The
>>> output of the analysis will be an informational document describing
>>> the recommended approaches that will be provided as an input to the
>>> DHC working group where the actual DHCP extensions needed for the
>>> recommended approaches will be defined.
>>
>> DHCP and security shouldn't be mixed
> 
> not sure what do you mean here, but considering that CGAs are addresses
> and that CGAs are used for security and that some folks may want to use
> dhcp for configuring CGAs, then it seems that there should be some
> relation here...
> 
>>  - for laughs, look at the current DHCPv6.. It basically assumes that
>> all network links DHCPv6 is used on are trusted,
> 
> that may be a reasonable assumption when current parameters are
> configured, but probably this is not a valid assumption when we want to
> configure cgas which will be used for security purposes, i guess
> 
>>  and effectively due to that anyone on the server-relay, or
>> relay-client legs could 'acquire' the CGA information if you really
>> pushed the address+key tuple that way.
> 
> this is certainly a model, but it is not the only one.
> 
> I mean, it really depends what are the motivations for using dhcp and
> what are the motivations for using CGAs. I mean this model assumes an
> underlying trust model, where the node can fully trust not only the
> links but also the dhcp server. It may well be the  case that the node
> doesn't want to dhcp server to have its CGA key or that simply you
> cannot trust the underlying links for this purposes.

I agree that there are some challenges, but we should work on
understanding what those are, and see if it is worthwhile to work
on it. I for one would like to think more about that (I guess you
may have thought more about this than me Markus :)

I have only passing knowledge of CGAs, but I wonder if there could also
be ways of proving that an address really was handed out by a given
DHCP server.

Stig

> 
>>
>> I don't see a single good reason for standardizing that but multiple
>> reasons why not to. If someone really cares, I can provide the reasons
>> off-band :)
>>
> 
> please expand on this since seems to be a central point for this
> proposed item
> 
> Thanks again, marcelo
> 
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Markus
>>
>>
> 
> 
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