> On 2 dec 2007, at 14:34, Richard Pruss wrote:
 > 
 > > Alper, I am sorry that you are not getting this but I 
 > believe that  
 > > adding software to PC's are specifically out of scope.  
 > Any SP who  
 > > has deployed something like PPPoE clients onto an 
 > end-users PC have  
 > > an allergic reaction to adding things to customer PC's.
 > 
 >  From reading the stuff posted to this list I don't believe 
 > this to be  
 > out of scope.

=> I agree. In fact this is done. My ISP required this, specifically for
user authentication. Of course this can also be done on the CPE.  

Hesham

 > 
 > What I'm afraid of is a solution that is very hard or impossible to  
 > deploy on common operating systems without the help from 
 > their vendor  
 > so a CPE device is always necessary. The problem with that is that  
 > with IPv4, customers typically only get a single address (I 
 > don't see  
 > a way for DHCP to provide multiple) so that this CPE must implement  
 > NAT functionality. NAT is never good, but there's a big difference  
 > between a reasonable NAT and a bad one. So it's extremely important  
 > for users to have a choice here. If service providers give 
 > customers  
 > CPEs that integrate the modem and NAT functions this means 
 > consumers  
 > are no longer in charge of their own destiny in this regard.
 > 
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