On 4/21/2021 6:36 AM, Vlad Stelmahovsky wrote:
Using Electron has nothing to do with licensing issues. The issue is
common programming knowledge level is going down when programmers
paradise promised for newcomers: learn HTML programming language
(sic!) and you are rich
btw, is Electron licensed for use in medical devices?
The professional sound equipment company moved from Qt to Electron
because of licensing. They already had all of the C++ Qt developers.
They had to learn how to use Electron.
The "Explore this computer" app for Intel made the same move for the
same reason. A good number of KIOSK applications made the same move for
the same reason.
As to the licensing, if you can sufficiently distance the UI from the
code which must be deterministic, you can get away with a lot. There is
just a __lot__ of paperwork for RISK justification. I got a call from a
researcher/doctor touting the Johns Hopkins credentials wanting me to
work on a post-op patient monitor they were going to hook directly to a
Windows 10 desktop sans an intervening control unit. No, I did not take
the gig.
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 1:30 PM Roland Hughes
<rol...@logikalsolutions.com <mailto:rol...@logikalsolutions.com>> wrote:
LOL,
I never said it wasn't. I said phones and John Deere. My point was
this:
>That tiny subset on the Web site doesn't scratch the surface.
Of course the total number of embedded systems using Qt of any
flavor is going down as much of the market is moving to Electron
and other libraries given the licensing issues.
Automotive is a tiny subset of where Qt is historically used.
On 4/21/2021 6:26 AM, Vlad Stelmahovsky wrote:
With these numbers are you trying to convince me that QML is not
used in embedded? or what?
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 1:21 PM Roland Hughes
<rol...@logikalsolutions.com
<mailto:rol...@logikalsolutions.com>> wrote:
On 4/21/2021 12:14 AM, Vlad Stelmahovsky wrote:
On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 3:13 PM Roland Hughes
<rol...@logikalsolutions.com
<mailto:rol...@logikalsolutions.com>> wrote:
On 4/20/2021 5:00 AM, Giuseppe D'Angelo wrote:
On 18/04/2021 14:50, Roland Hughes wrote:
It's completely true. That tiny subset on the Web site
doesn't scratch the surface. It certainly doesn't
encompass my customer base and I haven't heard anyone
pipe up on here using QML for anything non-significant
that wasn't phones or John Deere. Even the one medical
device we have been told about on this list has said you
can't do anything in QML, only painting.
its not true. f.ex all Volvo cars from 2015 until this year
using QML-based apps in their infotainment system
https://www.media.volvocars.com/us/en-us/corporate/sales-volumes?year=2015&month=12
<https://www.media.volvocars.com/us/en-us/corporate/sales-volumes?year=2015&month=12>
https://www.media.volvocars.com/us/en-us/corporate/sales-volumes?year=2016&month=12
<https://www.media.volvocars.com/us/en-us/corporate/sales-volumes?year=2016&month=12>
https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/en-gb/media/pressreleases/172301/volvo-cars-reports-record-sales-of-503127-in-2015
<https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/en-gb/media/pressreleases/172301/volvo-cars-reports-record-sales-of-503127-in-2015>
https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/en-gb/media/pressreleases/204359/volvo-cars-reports-operating-profit-of-sek11bn-in-2016
<https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/en-gb/media/pressreleases/204359/volvo-cars-reports-operating-profit-of-sek11bn-in-2016>
2015 70,047 U.S. 503,127 global
2016 82,724 U.S. 534,332 global
I guess we need to have some common definition of subset and
surface?
The patient monitors that use Qt sans QML sell millions of
units. Granted, they only cost thousands, not tens of
thousands. The one I worked on that was released some time in
2015 reportedly sold 7 million units in its first few years.
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