The SNMP-polled discards are absolutely correct form what I've seen. (Sorry to 
hear you've been having issues w/this dennis - our Cisco 3750s report 
drops/errors completely correctly from what we've seen - have about 20 or so of 
these in the network). Note that we primarily use a combination of Juniper EX 
switches, MX core routers and the like. Whenever we see a transmit discard it's 
usually (as Pedro said):

1. QoS Settings. We have the wrong forwarding classes setup on the interface, 
and/or haven't applied the scheduler-map (HW queues) correctly. Note that this 
is 90% of what I normally see. I compare what IM says, and then check for drops 
on each of the forwarding queues; and yep - the numbers line up perfectly. This 
one is by far the most useful use of the "Tx Discards".

2. Saturated Links - Absolutely. Gotta drop somewhere; shaper or no shaper - 
you'll eventually tail-drop at >100% utilization.

3. Oversized frames/MTU problems, esp if the DF bit is set. Can't push a 9K 
frame down a 4K L2 pipe.

4. Downstream Customer is rate-limited, however we can usually shape it w/a 
deep enough buffer so that it's not dropped (just really delayed). =). If we 
want to police, then we do that via a hard policer in a firewall filter on the 
outbound IP interface; which goes into the polcier's counters and doesn't 
contribute to the interface's counters. (Nice and silent if we want it to be).

> When I telnet to the switch and show stats on the interface the only errors
> I see are 16 FCS errors.  Not quite the 4000+ I expected to see.

> I still wonder, what does IM see that the hardware won't show me directly?
> And since IM is polling the hardware to get info to display bubbles - what
> is actually happening - and what is to be believed?

Thats because the frames are not errors. Somehow the "show interface" command 
being used isn't reporting the Tx discards - Somehow it's counting them, since 
Intermapper is reading this information from what the switch is telling it. =) 
(i.e. Intermapper is not making this up - it's just reading the Iface's SNMP Tx 
discard value, which is populated by the device).

> 
> i have learned that if you are interested in discards choose your device 
> wisely.
> some devices is just a mystery about discards..

Agreed on that =)

- Chris.

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