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> From: Mike Schinkel 
>
> That is a utopian sentiment, but not valid in the corporate world that uses
> managed hosting because they are focused on operating their business and
> not on having to spend time, resources and management expertise in
> securing and running servers on the Internet.

Not sure if using "corporate world" in this argument is good either. "Corporate 
world" typically doesn't want to change anything hence ~50% of the world still 
runs on PHP5. 

You will probably get more usage/adoption of the particular new feature in a 
php5/7 compatible php pecl extension rather than waiting for a managed hosting 
to upgrade to PHP 8/NEXT (see something like imagick, memcache or redis - not 
in a core at all, but probably rarely any host without those).

As for the "ensures many PHP developers will _never_ have access to them" - 
nowadays when everything can run in containerized environments where you can 
setup/configure php in whatever manner you like or the software needs, it 
usually isn't a problem anymore.

rr 

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