On 22 February 2024 08:52:49 GMT-05:00, Robert Landers 
<landers.rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I have noticed quite a number of emails appearing on externals but not
>appearing in my inbox. I randomly get an email saying:
>
>Hi, this is the Mlmmj program managing the <internals@lists.php.net>
>mailing list.
>
>Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this
>message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your
>information.
>
>Here is the list of the bounced messages:
>- 122446
>- 122448
>
>But I can clearly see far more than that in externals that are never received.
>
>IIRC from the email spec and internet customs, soft-bounces should be
>retried for a number of days (though I have no idea why gmail
>soft-bounced the messages, maybe rate-limiting?).
>
>If I'm using gmail and not getting emails, how many other people are
>also not getting emails on this list?


Lots.

Gmail is rejecting emails after we moved the servers without telling us why, in 
enough detail to do anything about it.

We can put a delay in delivering to Gmail, but that means mails get delayed for 
days.

So my advice would for now to not rely on Gmail while we figure out how to 
improve this.

cheers
Derick

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