On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 18:24 Ben Ramsey <ram...@php.net> wrote: > > On Jun 19, 2025, at 11:08, Calvin Buckley <cal...@cmpct.info> wrote: > > > > On Jun 19, 2025, at 11:08 AM, Marc Bennewitz <marc@mabe.berlin> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> During the discussion about the year 2038 issue it turned out that > maybe it's time to drop support for 32-bit of PHP completely. > >> > >> Based on that I have created an RFC to deprecate 32-bit build in 8.next > and drop support for it in 9. > >> > >> RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/drop_32bit_support > > > > I think the biggest arguments against this would be: > > > > - embedded systems; think of PHP in use for i.e. router web UIs. While I > > suspect a lot of these are going to be i.e. AArch64/RV64 in the future, > > there might be a long tail of existing systems. Of course, how many > > would upgrade to PHP 9? > > > > - WebAssembly; I don't know how widespread the Memory64 proposal is yet. > > We're using WebAssembly in the docs pages for runnable examples. > > > > And some niche cases like i.e. iSH (which emulates x86-32 on iOS). > > > > The other options include making zend_long always 64-bit and accept the > > performance penalty for 32-bit, or making 32-bit best-effort rather than > > providing any guarantees. > > > Last night, I was giving some thought to reviving Andrea’s Big Integer > RFC[^1]. This is something I’ve wanted for a long time (especially for my > ramsey/uuid library, among other things). > > Andrea had a work-in-progress PR[^2]. I’m not sure the current state of > it. It’s from 2014 and was originally written for phpng. I had planned to > start teasing out bits of it into a new branch based on the current master > branch to see how far I could get with it. I wouldn’t mind some help with > that, if anyone’s interested. :-) > > If we are able to finish what Andrea started, then we would not need to > drop support for 32bit builds. > > Cheers, > Ben > > > [^1]: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/bigint > [^2]: https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/876
Smallest ramnode.com VPS has 512MB ram. I would run 32bit PHP on a 512mb ram VPS. I'm not longer a ramnode customer, but I used to be. I for one would be sad to see 32bit PHP go.
