On Tue, Jun 24, 2025, at 3:18 AM, Adam Cable wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 12:20 AM Larry Garfield <la...@garfieldtech.com> 
> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2025, at 3:12 PM, Adam Cable wrote:
>> > Hello internals,
>> >
>> > I'd like to present my first RFC - str_icontains, a case-insensitive 
>> > friend of str_contains
>> >
>> > RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/str_icontains
>> > PR (including tests): https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/18705
>> >
>> > Previous discussion: https://externals.io/message/127504
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Adam
>> 
>> When str_contains() was added, a case-insensitive version was deliberately 
>> omitted in favor of "just use strtolower() yourself."  Have you gone back to 
>> see the arguments for that to determine if they're still relevant?
>> 
>> (I don't recall the details; I think one of them was function count 
>> explosion, but I think there were more.)
>> 
>> --Larry Garfield
>
> Thanks Larry.
>
> Yes, I did spend time reading through the past discussions on both 
> str_contains and the str_starts/end_with functions.
> I think initial RFCs failed because (a) people felt that the functions 
> didn't necessarily bring a whole heap of functionality above userland 
> code and (b) the debate about whether case-insensitive versions should 
> be included.
>
> Now that these functions exist, it seems weird as a PHP user that 
> case-insensitive versions aren't available to easily switch between.
> Obviously we have the UTF-8 question that I've detailed, but I'm hoping 
> adding this will solve a tiny issue where people expect this function 
> to exist, but it doesn't.
>
> Adam

A discussion of that, and why you think the new position outweighs the original 
decision, should be included in the RFC.

(At the moment I'm undecided; yeah it's an easy enough utility to add, but the 
UTF-8 issue is real, and one could easily argue that it's stripos() that's 
wrong, because it's misleading as it only works on ASCII.)

The ideal answer would be Derick's built-in String object RFC, which I don't 
think has been touched in a while, sadly...

--Larry Garfield

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