On Monday 10 September 2007 02:43:52 pm Pierre wrote: > On 9/10/07, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > PLEASE can we have an assessment of how this new list of features will > > affect users porting from PHP4 rather than simply assuming that this is > > just a simple 'upgrade' from PHP5.2.X. > > > > As discussion has already been shouted down on the vote list ... we have > > to get people to convert *TO* PHP5 before PHP6 becomes practical. Lets > > not create yet another roadblock in that path :( > > If you fear a magic_quotes GPC and register globals removal, you can > sleep quiet. It is not going to happen. I wonder why it is the poll as > it can't be made in 5.3, in no way, even if we all dream about that :)
Removing register_globals can be worked around using a one line patch (-> import_request_vars) so the break would be minimal but I don't think we win that much from removing that setting Removing magic_quotes has an easy fix, too but there I see more problems: Quite many people have the default value "On" and their applications therefore are, by accident, a bit more secure (no, they won't be safe, I know) removing , magic_quotes without flooding people without that information would create many holes without people realizing. Therefore such a change can imo only be done in a major version change like 5 -> 6 where people expect more stuff to break. As a sidenote: Maybe interesting for this discussion: I have some statstics about such settings on hosts running some average PHP application (phpMyFAQ). These information is collected from the application's installer and can then be reported to the phpMyFAQ developers. The relevant information here is this chart showing the percentage of systems using the mentioned settings by PHP version: http://phpmyfaq.de/stats/svg/settings_20070910160921.png Of course that's no complete picture of the situation but some indication that r_g isn't used that much anymore but magic_quotes is. (Please keep in mind that theses stats are counting only people who agreed sending the information, it also includes people using test systems and you can absolutely forget the 4.3 information -> by far not enough hosts using phMyFAQ using that version) My personal conclusion: Removing these doesn't really bring benefits for us but might make problems for users since they don't expect such changes (especially magic_quotes...as sad as it is...) in a minor release. johannes -- Johannes Schlüter http://schlueters.de -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
