With regard to the CMake SoC proposal ... I may be a little naive here but surely it would be better to use PHP to build PHP?
I know that outside of PHP, a LOT of tools which I have no knowledge of (I'm a windows user. I use point and click interfaces to build apps when I used Delphi - no need for command line, but it was present). I know that most *nix devs use cli to do the build. But, if the whole build process was PHP orientated, it would be a case of keeping it in-house. No need to learn m4/cscript/etc. when we are using PHP to build PHP. The problem with this (as I see it) is the first build on those systems where a binary isn't available (look - I'm on windows. I download and go). So, a PHP Bootstrap would seem like a sensible tool to have. Something would produce take a truly basic PHP interpreter. No extensions (db, graphics, etc). As I see it it would need file I/O, cli param handling. I think it would be nice to be able to get user input via the console, so you could have something a little more visual (not like the PEAR cli interface, but in that nature - question/answer). Add in the ability to remember the last build config, so no need to re-do all the q/a and off you go (ha ha. If only it was that simple - but shouldn't it be?) Ok. I know I've missed loads of what the build process does. I suspect that PHP code necessary to build PHP would be quite extensive and I suspect the first argument against this is wheel re-invention. I would counter that with this is re-invention, but refactoring. The improvement comes from not relying on anything other than the local C compiler and userland PHP knowledge. Even I could build PHP now without understanding a ton of different tools. I'm no expert here. So I know this isn't a full proposal or anything, but of those that know this better than I... 1 - Could this be done? 2 - Would it be worth it (100% standalone pre-compiler process with no third party tools). 3 - Would you use it if it was available - would something like this be too different to other build systems you use? Richard. -- ----- Richard Quadling Zend Certified Engineer : http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731 "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!" -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
