> From: Richard Lynch [mailto:c...@l-i-e.com] 
> On Wed, February 29, 2012 7:16 pm, John Crenshaw wrote:
> > I'm beginning to think that the type hinting question is too closely 
> > related to the dirty secrets of type juggling to resolve them 
> > separately. You may have to either discard consistency, or else fix 
> > the problem of silent bizarre conversions at the same time ('foo'==0, 
> > '123abc'=123). Fixing the conversions is a BC break though.
> 
> [short version]
> One man's "fixing" is another man's "feature" :-)
> 
> Old hands can now hit delete while I wax philosophical.

The operative word was "silent". The actual behavior is fine, but the silence 
is unexpected. For example, PHP happily accepts substr('foo', 'bar') with no 
complaint at all. From a purely philosophical perspective I think almost 
everyone would expect *at least* a strict notice.

On a practical level, we have a major barrier and we'll have to decide how to 
handle it. As I see it we could do one of the following:
1. Discard consistency (!!)
2. Try to convince people to make these bizarre conversions not silent (BC 
break)
3. Try to find a creative solution to be consistent without changing anything 
about the conversion behavior. (I'm not seeing a way to do this one, unless we 
redefine "consistent".)

John Crenshaw
Priacta, Inc.

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