Thank you for the link http://philsturgeon.co.uk/blog/2013/01/php-6-pissing-in-the-wind I didn't know that... getters/setters were dumped to the garbage... http://japfan.pl/uploads/media/dacffbe3073882e86057d04266675637.JPG I will go get a drink... Is there any log of votes? Like reasons why "no" people said "no"? Sorry for off-topic. I think I will quit visiting "internals", this just dosen't make any sense.
2013/1/26 Florin Razvan Patan <florinpa...@gmail.com>: > Hi, > > Everyone here forgets that there's a little certification > run by some guys named Zend that factor in some of > these things as well. > > That's the point of not having consistency? Checking > if some have better memory that others? > > Also, I suppose that everyone can afford to look up > things on the PHP manual when doing debugging on > some crashed remote service via CLI only access. > > Now, on a nicer tone. > > Consistency across function name/parameters would > help out both new people that learn the language as > well as leave out one point when compared to the other > languages. > > Sure, there's no point in changing things just for the > sake of it but I don't get it why this couldn't be a > viable option for PHP 6 for example, which is a major > release. > > It would definitely help out new users and get some > bonus points while doing so in order to close the mouth > of those arguing that PHP is so inconsistent in naming > things. > > Phil Sturgeon had a nice idea on his blog, > http://philsturgeon.co.uk/blog/2013/01/php-6-pissing-in-the-wind > which I think could very well apply to PHP and maybe > something like this could be done by someone with > less C/PHP internals knowledge that some other > features. If that's the case and all we need is someone > to do the changes, then I could level up my C > knowledge and help out if no one else is willing to do > it. > > I'd dislike for it to be rejected with reasons like: > - but it doesn't bring anything new; > - it doesn't help us with anything; > - it doesn't solve real problems; > - the current functions reflect the underlying functions > used. I've been a PHP user (developer) for a couple of > years now and I really don't care what's the parameter > order for the functions that PHP use to help me out > getting my job done; > - perfection ain't good. > > > Best regards. > ---- > Florin Patan > https://github.com/dlsniper > > > > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen <ka...@php.net> wrote: >> Hi >> >> 2013/1/25 Damian Tylczyński <turneli...@gmail.com>: >>> I've seen discussion on reddit >>> http://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/174qng/lets_make_phps_function_names_consistent/ >> >> There is one really clean solution to this "problem" for the >> consistency Guys that tend to complain about PHP endlessly; write the >> aliases in PHP that can be included, which can be considered just like >> using one of the frameworks thats filled with functions, it can be >> written quite fast and you can even use auto_prepend_file to include >> it in all scripts. >> >> As said in countless mails above, there is no gain for breaking BC due >> to "perfection". >> >> -- >> regards, >> >> Kalle Sommer Nielsen >> ka...@php.net >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
