2013/2/20 Derick Rethans <der...@php.net>: > Looks like it is time to forward this email from 2006 again: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:57:32 +0200 > From: Zeev Suraski <z...@zend.com> > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion > > I'd like to raise a motion to 'Give the Language a Rest'. > > Almost a decade since we started with the 2nd iteration on the syntax (PHP 3), > and 2 more major versions since then, and we're still heatedly debating on > adding new syntactical, core level features. > > Is it really necessary? I'd say in almost all cases the answer's no, and a > bunch of cases where a new feature could be useful does not constitute a good > enough reason to add a syntax level feature. We might have to account for new > technologies, or maybe new ways of thinking that might arise, but needless to > say, most of the stuff we've been dealing with in recent times doesn't exactly > fall in the category of cutting edge technology. > > My motion is to make it much, much more difficult to add new syntax-level > features into PHP. Consider only features which have significant traction to > a > large chunk of our userbase, and not something that could be useful in some > extremely specialized edge cases, usually of PHP being used for non web stuff. > > How do we do it? Unfortunately, I can't come up with a real mechanism to > 'enforce' a due process and reasoning for new features. > > Instead, please take at least an hour to bounce this idea in the back of your > mind, preferably more. Make sure you think about the full context, the huge > audience out there, the consequences of making the learning curve steeper > with > every new feature, and the scope of the goodness that those new features > bring. > Consider how far we all come and how successful the PHP language is today, in > implementing all sorts of applications most of us would have never even > thought > of when we created the language. > > Once you're done thinking, decide for yourself. Does it make sense to be > discussing new language level features every other week? Or should we, > perhaps, > invest more in other fronts, which would be beneficial for a far bigger > audience. The levels above - extensions to keep with the latest technologies, > foundation classes, etc. Pretty much, the same direction other mature > languages > went to. > > To be clear, and to give this motion higher chances of success, I'm not > talking > about jump. PHP can live with jump, almost as well as it could live without > it > :) I'm talking about the general sentiment. > > Zeev > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >
Agree. There are only a few core devs working daily in the PHP internals. I would say please give the Language (and devs) a rest motion, because there are a lot of bugs and work to be done but I'm afraid that is more easy/funny to request a new feature/syntax than do the grunt work :( -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
