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From: tjerk.meest...@gmail.com [mailto:tjerk.meest...@gmail.com] On Behalf
Of Tjerk Anne Meesters
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 4:01 AM

> My point is that you need a reasonably up-to-date certs bundle to enable
verification by default.

Actually, you don't. There is no reason why certificate validation cannot be
enabled by default without a CA bundle. Yes, verifications will fail by
default but this is no different than the cases where someone has an oddball
provider or self-signed certificates; they have to manually add the cert for
verification to pass.

Additionally, given the current certificate climate, I wouldn't trust
anything signed by the global CAs. If you're concerned about security, you
should be validating the certificate fingerprint and not trusting CAs.

Bryan


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