Am 30.7.2014 um 17:08 schrieb Ferenc Kovacs <tyr...@gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Ferenc Kovacs <tyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Matteo Beccati <p...@beccati.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Bob,
>>> 
>>> On 30/07/2014 14:33, Bob Weinand wrote:
>>>> Is this a problem if the interface internally doesn't expect a
>>> parameter?
>>>> 
>>>> You're free to expect the parameter or not, where's  the issue?
>>>> We allow implementations to accept more optional parameters than the
>>>> interface specifies, but not less.
>>> 
>>> Yes, precisely. If something is using an Interface it should *not* add
>>> unspecified parameters to the method calls, as the implementation might
>>> have added some of their own with a different meaning.
>>> 
>>>> So, it seems optimal to me, to make the interface specify no parameters,
>>>> then the class implementing this interface is free to accept either no
>>>> parameter (= don't care about recursive) or one optional one.
>>> 
>>> So, PHP specifies a Countable interface, and its count() method has no
>>> parameters. However, if you check the documentation then you'll find out
>>> that in fact it might be sent one. On some occasions.
>>> 
>>>> I'll though happily apply your patch now.
>>> 
>>> I wrote it, but to be honest now I think it's just hiding the problem
>>> under the carpet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> --
>>> Matteo Beccati
>>> 
>>> Development & Consulting - http://www.beccati.com/
>>> 
>> 
>> for the record here is a code snippet showing the BC break:
>> http://3v4l.org/4O9nA
>> and as far as I Can understand, even with Matteo's patch, the output would
>> be still different(1,1,0,0)
>> 
>> 
> if we want to introduce it properly, I think it would be better to do it in
> a major version, where we can add the $mode to the Countable::count()
> signature as a mandatory argument, so if by chance anybody already used an
> optional argument to their count() implementation, they will be notified
> via the "Declaration of MyCountable::count() must be compatible with that
> of Countable::count()" fatal error.
> Given that this is a BC break(and a hard-to-catch one) which is not allowed
> in a minor release and that https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=67064 is more
> of a feature request than an actual bugfix, I would like to ask you to
> revert this from the PHP-5.6 branch.
> Sorry for not spotting this sooner. :(
> 
> -- 
> Ferenc Kovács
> @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu

Okay, after lengthy discussions it's now reverted.

Bob

p.s.: And I didn't make attention and a part of the revert went into the next 
commit (which is basically totally unrelated...), sorry.

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