On 2014-10-26, Bob Weinand <bobw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Am 26.10.2014 um 17:23 schrieb Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk>:
>> 
>> On 26/10/14 15:41, Bob Weinand wrote:
>>> Ask them at PhpStorm. They were pleased to not have to use DBGp for it.
>>> They just initially requested it because they didn’t knew any better 
>>> protocol. That’s all.
>> 
>> PHPStorm like PHP-FIG have their own agendas which do not play well with
>> other groups of developers. Just because one thinks an idea is good does
>> not mean that everybody else has to adopt it. So what becomes 'main
>> stream' has to have common consensus and the voting rules provide that.
>> 
>> When was the vote on this rework taken?
>> 
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>
> There wasn’t any vote and there won’t.
>
> /dev/null likes to listen to your complaints why we should have voted on it.

step back a bit here, stay professional, there is no need for passive
aggressiveness.
>
> But now it’s in, let’s rather try to improve what’s there than screaming for 
> a vote - it won’t help anyone and hinder possible work on improving the 
> current thing.

>From what I see, the complan is about the initial protocol and not about
how to improve it or not. This whole protocol business needed an RFC,
which I haven't seen. So we should come up with a good way of deciding
which protocol to use and how to implement it. Before this, I would strongly
vote to not incldue the current verison in PHP 7 at all. Also let me point
out that the code belogns to everyone and everyone will have to deal with it
so we better make an informed decision now.

Thanks

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