> On 31 Oct 2014, at 18:37, Larry Garfield <la...@garfieldtech.com> wrote:
> 
> I think the root problem is that you're solving an issue that doesn't exist.
> 
> You're talking about providing alternate ways to parse the raw HTTP stream 
> into user-accessible variables, ie, by pushing them into an object of a known 
> interface rather than/in addition to the superglobals.
> 
> In my 15 years of writing PHP I have never wanted to change the way the raw 
> HTTP is parsed.  I have, however, frequently wanted to have the data 
> accessible in a more logical, semantic, and HTTP-correct way.  ($_GET is not 
> about HTTP GET, it's about URI query parameters. $_POST isn't about HTTP 
> POST, it's about application/x-www-form-encoded.  Etc.)  And I've wanted that 
> information available in a non-global, OOP-injectable way. But I've never 
> once had any desire to change the way an application/x-www-form-encoded is 
> parsed.
> 
> Implementation problems aside, your proposal is not solving an extant problem.
> 
> If we want to improve PHP's HTTP handling, then having an object that exposes 
> the HTTP request in a more logical fashion would be far more useful, and/or 
> providing that data in a more logical way so that someone in user-space can 
> provide that data in a logical fashion (eg, via a PSR-7-implementing object.) 
>  I already stated in an earlier email what I felt would be most beneficial 
> for internals to do toward that goal (specifically, clean up the streams API 
> so that we can use it directly from an OOP world rather than a 1980s C world.)
> 
> IF internals wanted to add implementation, not just improving streams, 
> something like the following would be much more useful:
> 
> $request = http_get_request(PHP_STDIN); // or something
> 
> Where $request is an object that implements the PSR-7 RequestInterface (or at 
> least the read-only parts of it), or something similar.  Then implementers 
> can compose that object however they want.
> 
> Although at least for the near term I think it's better to not do that and 
> just do the lower-level plumbing to make FIG's work with PSR-7 easier.

This sums up my thoughts on this very well. Nobody needs to change how we parse 
the data. We just need better access to the results of the parsing.
--
Andrea Faulds
http://ajf.me/





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