@Rasmus:

I don't see what's the problem of aliasing functions for the next 1-2
majors, deprecate the inconsistent one in the following and remove later.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Trevor Suarez <ric...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ... well that's a constructive way of going about it. I don't think Yasuo
> did anything harmful or rude in making his proposal. Regardless of how
> realistic the idea may be, I don't think its ever appropriate or
> constructive to tell someone to simply "stop" because something "is just
> ridiculous".
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:24 AM Rasmus Lerdorf <ras...@lerdorf.com> wrote:
>
> > On 03/03/2015 07:34 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
> > > Hi Michael,
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Michael Schuett <
> > michaeljs1...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Your evaluation is pretty anecdotal. I agree with some points but you
> > need
> > >> some solid evidence if you are going to rate these languages. Also do
> > you
> > >> have a list of all the functions you would like to rename or is this a
> > >> sweeping lets just change everything so it matches and deprecate all
> the
> > >> old stuff. Your matrix is a very weak push to do so. If you want to
> make
> > >> these changes it would be better to choose a select set such as the
> > array
> > >> functions and try and push that through or see what that change might
> > look
> > >> like and if it's really beneficial to userland.
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree that my evaluation is subjective. For example, I rate PHP has
> "1"
> > > security only
> > > because PHP is very weak against script/file inclusions because it's
> > fatal
> > > and other
> > > languages apps do not have script/file inclusions as PHP apps do.
> Others
> > > might
> > > rate "2" or even "3" because it is too easy to fix it even if incident
> is
> > > fatal.
> > > (Security should be evaluated by "how difficult to make mistakes", not
> > "how
> > > easy to
> > > fix mistakes" generally. IMHO)
> > >
> > > I made list of rename candidates
> > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/consistent_function_names#
> > list_of_functions_to_be_renamed
> > > If you have suggestions, I appreciate!
> >
> > Yasuo, please stop. This isn't going to happen. Changing strlen() to
> > str_len() is just ridiculous.
> >
> > -Rasmus
> >
> >
> >
>



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