----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yasuo Ohgaki" <yohg...@ohgaki.net>
> To: "Joe Watkins" <pthre...@pthreads.org>, "Andrey Andreev" <n...@devilix.net>
> Cc: internals@lists.php.net
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 1:07:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][VOTE] Improve hash_hkdf() parameter

> Hi Joe,
> 
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 7:46 PM, Joe Watkins <pthre...@pthreads.org> wrote:
> 
>> This RFC was left open for 5 days past the end of voting as declared on
>> the RFC.
>>
> 
> Thank you, I forgot about this.
> IMHO, it's a shame for us we should have inconsistent and insecure function
> signature for a new function.
> 
> I'm going to update the manual to add warning notes and example usages
> like advanced CRFS token dedicated for specific URL with expiration time.
> 
> I can think of length option only usage, but I cannot think usage that could
> be useful for majority of PHP users like advanced CSRF token.

Is this really something we need in our official docs instead of for example
on a personal blog?

To be honest I am afraid of ending up with something like the current state
of the session docs. Which are imo way too broad / opinionated, non English,
contains utterly confusing examples and / or flat out wrong and broken examples.
Above already resulted in a stream of docs bugs regarding session pages
and a lot of confused readers.

By all means describe how functions work, but don't confuse readers with things
most people won't ever need or are better suited as a (series of) blog posts / 
Stack Overflow post(s).

My €0.02

cc-ing docs discussion to get them also involved in case somebody of the docs
team has an opinion.

> Andrey,
> 
> Could you give us some length only and length/info only example
> that could be useful for most PHP users.
> It should be safe and recommended usage.
> I suppose you should have some good examples.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> --
> Yasuo Ohgaki
> yohg...@ohgaki.net

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