On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 6:02 AM Reinis Rozitis <r...@roze.lv> wrote: > Not directly related to this RFC but out of curiosity - where does > this "doing the same thing in multiple ways is confusing" comes from? > (I mean this as serious question) > > I had the impression that programming in essence is all about that - > achieving/accomplishing something/the same different ways?
Of course there will always be an infinite number of logical ways to structure a program, but this is quite different from having two different syntaxes in a language that do exactly the same thing. The latter is confusing since it's no longer clear which syntax should be used. The same situation existed with the curly brace array/string access syntax, which was deprecated in PHP 7.4. To share my own experience, when I first started needing to run shell commands in PHP and came across the backtick operator, I struggled to understand the difference between it and `shell_exec`, and which should be used in different circumstances. E.g. does the backtick operator automatically escape variables? Is it faster than `shell_exec`? It also caused me to assume that `shell_exec` must be preferred for some reason over `exec` and `proc_open` since there is a dedicated syntax for it. Ultimately it made the whole process of learning how to correctly run commands from PHP a lot more confusing than it should have been. I know I'm not the only one that has been confused by it. If you look at the PHP manual page for Execution Operators [1], the top voted comment (by far) is from someone who accidentally typed a backtick into their code and had a very difficult time debugging why their script didn't work as expected. As I see it, this syntax is not only confusing, but also dangerous. A programmer coming from JavaScript might think the backticks are simply storing a string, when in fact it will be executed as a command. Furthermore, the (undocumented) ability to include variables in the command can encourage terse but insecure scripts which fail to properly escape user-supplied arguments. Theodore [1]: https://www.php.net/manual/en/language.operators.execution.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
